I can't say that I agree with Martha about the inherent difference between western and eastern religions. Christianity is inherently communal. Its core teaching is "being for others", sacrificing oneself for the sake of reconciliation and furtherance of God's plan for creation. That this core focus has been so distorted as to support an individualist philosophy says more about human nature and rationalization than it does about the teachings of Jesus Christ.

Our values are shaped by our ethics, and our ethics are often -- in fact usually -- religiously grounded. The search for a common set of ethics based on shared and essentially innate beliefs, is a compelling need supported by the common elements of most religions. Where do we get this set of shared beliefs? An interesting question, to be sure, and the case can be made that the notion that they are "self-evident" as the US Declaration of Independence suggests, rests "solidly" on assertion and a shared desire that they be true. That we have managed the beginnings of a consensus that there are universal human rights is hopeful for dealing with the crisis of the moment, but it needs to be buttressed by action and extended in scope to encompass the imperative to act collectively to address climate change and the rape of the environment.

Joel

At 09:40 AM 7/15/09 -0400, you wrote:
The desire for sustainability has more to do with values than with individual virtues, experience or maturity of enlightenment (although one could pursue the case of early adaptors in a non-secular argument). Eastern religions focus on collectivism where Western religions emphasize individualism (and therefore, indirectly promote capitalism). As a result, Eastern religions have a value system entirely different from Western religions. The other issue that must be addressed is morality, which has been for the most part, lost in Western culture. Up until 100 years ago, morality constrained capitalism. Now we are dealing with unbridled capitalism, a very ugly monster indeed. It's not so much that we need a change of religion to bring about a collective push toward sustainability, it's that we need to restore morality and change the fundamental values of the populous. This could be done either through a religious or cultural shift. Only when we (as a social, religious or cultural group) no longer hold money as our highest value, can other values become priorities thus bringing about the change to a more sustainable way of life.

--Martha

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Gay has raised good questions.

Compassion saves us from the pitfalls of perfectionism.  This is the
overarching sense of balance at the heart of any mature, reflective religious
movement, Western or Eastern.  And such balance comes from people who have
faced their own paradoxes, contradictions, and hypocrisies and committed
themselves to do a bit better at what promotes wholeness and change that might
be sustainable.  (Fundamentalism in any religious or secular practice never
develops this level of self-awareness.)

What I see of the sustainability movement from a little distance is  that
it is still in the "smart" phase of enlightened self interest that seeks the
welfare of the whole as much as the individual.  This is not a bad  place
to be, but it does not deal with the problems of how individual needs may
run at odds with groups and how groups may too easily become collusive,
group-think exercises that undermine innovations that challenge popular
assumptions within the larger sustainability movement.

While there are many individual and group exceptions, the movement as  a
whole remains mostly a secular, enlightenment/modernity concern. It has only
begun to embrace the deep roots of the religious commitments  that define
the peoples of the world.

One reasonably credible breakdown of religious affiliations, worldwide, is
as follows:  Just over half of the inhabitants of Earth identify with one
of the Western, Abrahamic faiths: 0.2% Jewish, 32% Chrisitian,  20% Muslim.
The Eastern traditions account for one-half  of  inhabitants:  12.5% Hindu,
6% Buddhist, 6.5% Tao and Confucian.  The  non-religious and atheist
account for 12.5% and 2.5%, respectively. The remaining 10% pick up hundreds of
different traditions.

Sustainability will need to work within the mature practices of each of
these approaches (not the simplistic or fundamental ones), if we are to see
much  of a deepening of sustainability worldwide.

Eric

Eric Clay,  M.Div., Ph.D.
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