i'm replying to the video you've posted. Matthias, i can't believe all this... are you serious? you want the browser to render complex graphics/shapes/gradients and texts (pdf) all in html? the performance will not be anything near the performance you get when running it on a plugin that has full access to the cpu. also on the ipad you always have to stick with a webview or browser. this was the first thing that i tested on the iPad: if the webview is strong enough for complex svg (which was not mentioned yet in this discussion - but should be since its open and supported by browsers more than html5) rendering - and it was not! the same applies for html5 and it crashes from time to time when zooming.
plain reading of pdf files is no new experience. the scribd player is not really great - wheres the multimedia experience, the surplus to a plain pdf loaded into adobe acrobat? this seems to be a step backwards all just because steve jobs is trying to push away from flash for only one reason that i dont want to mention here again. offering a html version of pdfs is not an innovative idea - and trying to continue the nonsense steve jobs started by comparing flash to html5 is just not clever. greetings to Jared Friedman, filip On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Martin Perez <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks Mathias. Very clear answer. > > Just randomly thinking that perhaps you could start that new project at > Apache with the actual source code of pdf2swf (and its descendants). The > current location is ok but it is a bit hidden so I guess you could get extra > infrastructure for free and perhaps more contributors (not like me, a mere > lurker) willing to convert pdf2swf into the standard set of tools to > manipulate HTML5, swf and pdf. > > Or.... probably much better for yourself ...... create a converter and sell > it to Adobe :-) > > Best, > Martin > > > On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 12:33 AM, Matthias Kramm <[email protected]>wrote: > >> On Fri, May 07, 2010 at 11:25:22AM +0200, Martin Perez <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > It looks like though that market is moving towards HTML5 and many >> players >> > are moving their flash based viewers from flash to this standard. So a >> few >> > questions arise with regards to swftools and custom viewers. So, is >> there >> > any plans to provide tools to move from flash to html5? Some kind of >> > swftohtml5. >> >> I do have plans to open-source building blocks for converting documents >> to HTML5. That is, it's something I want to do. >> It's yet way too early to provide any details or time estimates though. >> >> One of the many questions is whether to incorporate things like this >> into swftools (possibly renaming it), or to start a new project centered >> around document conversions in general, as oposed to SWF. >> >> pdf2swf, while popular, has always had a different scope than all the >> other parts of swftools, so maybe it (and it's descendants) deserve its' >> own project. >> >> > Any plans to an html5 basic viewer? >> >> Probably not. Same as with pdf2swf, the best approach was always to give >> people a basic conversion solution, and let them craft their own UI >> around it. >> >> > Or alternatively, what would >> > be the necessary steps to move our documents converted with swftools to >> > html5. >> >> Well, right now Flash has still a very high penetration, so let's not >> be hasty. pdf2swf still gets the job done, and I'm still actively >> supporting it. >> That being said, once the time has come for a pdf2html5, I'm sure >> there'll be a swf2html5 as well- in the same way that there currently >> are swf2pdf (etc.) tools that convert (pdf2swf generated) swf files >> to other formats. >> >> Also, for the curious, here are a few links to the new HTML5 >> conversion technology of Scribd: >> >> Keynote from our CTO: >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wultk6iKXk&feature=PlayList&p=B415D73E4A22F82E&playnext_from=PL&index=8 >> HTML5<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wultk6iKXk&feature=PlayList&p=B415D73E4A22F82E&playnext_from=PL&index=8%0AHTML5>example >> documents: >> http://www.scribd.com/documents/30964170/Scribd-in-HTML5 >> http://www.scribd.com/documents/5/Paper-5 >> Engineering blog (will start containing HTML5 technology posts on Monday): >> http://coding.scribd.com/ >> >> Matthias >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Martín Pérez > > Founder, > http://www.jobsket.com > >
