html5 examples are slowing down my browser. i have core2duo, 4GB ram, brand new 
machine. Will it work good on mobiles and ipad?
 


Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 10:29:06 -0700
Subject: Re: [Swftools-common] Swftools, PDF and HTML5
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]

Hi,

Does anyone know how will HTML5 protect the document content from being copied 
etc? PDF allows copy/print and swf allows to atleast disallow copy. 

Best, 


On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 3:44 AM, filip sound <[email protected]> wrote:

i'm replying to the video you've posted.

Matthias, i can't believe all this...
are you serious? you want the browser to render complex 
graphics/shapes/gradients and texts (pdf) all in html? the performance will not 
be anything near the performance you get when running it on a plugin that has 
full access to the cpu. also on the ipad you always have to stick with a 
webview or browser. this was the first thing that i tested on the iPad: if the 
webview is strong enough for complex svg (which was not mentioned yet in this 
discussion - but should be since its open and supported by browsers more than 
html5) rendering - and it was not! the same applies for html5 and it crashes 
from time to time when zooming.

plain reading of pdf files is no new experience. the scribd player is not 
really great - wheres the multimedia experience, the surplus to a plain pdf 
loaded into adobe acrobat? this seems to be a step backwards all just because 
steve jobs is trying to push away from flash for only one reason that i dont 
want to mention here again. offering a html version of pdfs is not an 
innovative idea - and trying to continue the nonsense steve jobs started by 
comparing flash to html5 is just not clever.

greetings to Jared Friedman,
  filip





On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Martin Perez <[email protected]> wrote:

Thanks Mathias. Very clear answer. 

Just randomly thinking that perhaps you could start that new project at Apache 
with the actual source code of pdf2swf (and its descendants). The current 
location is ok but it is a bit hidden so I guess you could get extra 
infrastructure for free and perhaps more contributors (not like me, a mere 
lurker) willing to convert pdf2swf into the standard set of tools to manipulate 
HTML5, swf and pdf. 

Or.... probably much better for yourself ...... create a converter and sell it 
to Adobe :-)

Best,
Martin





On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 12:33 AM, Matthias Kramm <[email protected]> wrote:


On Fri, May 07, 2010 at 11:25:22AM +0200, Martin Perez <[email protected]> 
wrote:
> It looks like though that market is moving towards HTML5 and many players
> are moving their flash based viewers from flash to this standard. So a few
> questions arise with regards to swftools and custom viewers. So, is there
> any plans to provide tools to move from flash to html5? Some kind of
> swftohtml5.

I do have plans to open-source building blocks for converting documents
to HTML5. That is, it's something I want to do.
It's yet way too early to provide any details or time estimates though.

One of the many questions is whether to incorporate things like this
into swftools (possibly renaming it), or to start a new project centered
around document conversions in general, as oposed to SWF.

pdf2swf, while popular, has always had a different scope than all the
other parts of swftools, so maybe it (and it's descendants) deserve its'
own project.


> Any plans to an html5 basic viewer?

Probably not. Same as with pdf2swf, the best approach was always to give
people a basic conversion solution, and let them craft their own UI
around it.


> Or alternatively, what would
> be the necessary steps to move our documents converted with swftools to
> html5.

Well, right now Flash has still a very high penetration, so let's not
be hasty. pdf2swf still gets the job done, and I'm still actively
supporting it.
That being said, once the time has come for a pdf2html5, I'm sure
there'll be a swf2html5 as well- in the same way that there currently
are swf2pdf (etc.) tools that convert (pdf2swf generated) swf files
to other formats.

Also, for the curious, here are a few links to the new HTML5
conversion technology of Scribd:

Keynote from our CTO:
   
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wultk6iKXk&feature=PlayList&p=B415D73E4A22F82E&playnext_from=PL&index=8
HTML5 example documents:

   http://www.scribd.com/documents/30964170/Scribd-in-HTML5
   http://www.scribd.com/documents/5/Paper-5
Engineering blog (will start containing HTML5 technology posts on Monday):
   http://coding.scribd.com/

Matthias








-- 
Martín Pérez

Founder,
http://www.jobsket.com



                                          
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