Hi, Does anyone know how will HTML5 protect the document content from being copied etc? PDF allows copy/print and swf allows to atleast disallow copy.
Best, On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 3:44 AM, filip sound <[email protected]> wrote: > i'm replying to the video you've posted. > > Matthias, i can't believe all this... > are you serious? you want the browser to render complex > graphics/shapes/gradients and texts (pdf) all in html? the performance will > not be anything near the performance you get when running it on a plugin > that has full access to the cpu. also on the ipad you always have to stick > with a webview or browser. this was the first thing that i tested on the > iPad: if the webview is strong enough for complex svg (which was not > mentioned yet in this discussion - but should be since its open and > supported by browsers more than html5) rendering - and it was not! the same > applies for html5 and it crashes from time to time when zooming. > > plain reading of pdf files is no new experience. the scribd player is not > really great - wheres the multimedia experience, the surplus to a plain pdf > loaded into adobe acrobat? this seems to be a step backwards all just > because steve jobs is trying to push away from flash for only one reason > that i dont want to mention here again. offering a html version of pdfs is > not an innovative idea - and trying to continue the nonsense steve jobs > started by comparing flash to html5 is just not clever. > > greetings to Jared Friedman, > filip > > > On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Martin Perez <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Thanks Mathias. Very clear answer. >> >> Just randomly thinking that perhaps you could start that new project at >> Apache with the actual source code of pdf2swf (and its descendants). The >> current location is ok but it is a bit hidden so I guess you could get extra >> infrastructure for free and perhaps more contributors (not like me, a mere >> lurker) willing to convert pdf2swf into the standard set of tools to >> manipulate HTML5, swf and pdf. >> >> Or.... probably much better for yourself ...... create a converter and >> sell it to Adobe :-) >> >> Best, >> Martin >> >> >> On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 12:33 AM, Matthias Kramm <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> On Fri, May 07, 2010 at 11:25:22AM +0200, Martin Perez < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> > It looks like though that market is moving towards HTML5 and many >>> players >>> > are moving their flash based viewers from flash to this standard. So a >>> few >>> > questions arise with regards to swftools and custom viewers. So, is >>> there >>> > any plans to provide tools to move from flash to html5? Some kind of >>> > swftohtml5. >>> >>> I do have plans to open-source building blocks for converting documents >>> to HTML5. That is, it's something I want to do. >>> It's yet way too early to provide any details or time estimates though. >>> >>> One of the many questions is whether to incorporate things like this >>> into swftools (possibly renaming it), or to start a new project centered >>> around document conversions in general, as oposed to SWF. >>> >>> pdf2swf, while popular, has always had a different scope than all the >>> other parts of swftools, so maybe it (and it's descendants) deserve its' >>> own project. >>> >>> > Any plans to an html5 basic viewer? >>> >>> Probably not. Same as with pdf2swf, the best approach was always to give >>> people a basic conversion solution, and let them craft their own UI >>> around it. >>> >>> > Or alternatively, what would >>> > be the necessary steps to move our documents converted with swftools to >>> > html5. >>> >>> Well, right now Flash has still a very high penetration, so let's not >>> be hasty. pdf2swf still gets the job done, and I'm still actively >>> supporting it. >>> That being said, once the time has come for a pdf2html5, I'm sure >>> there'll be a swf2html5 as well- in the same way that there currently >>> are swf2pdf (etc.) tools that convert (pdf2swf generated) swf files >>> to other formats. >>> >>> Also, for the curious, here are a few links to the new HTML5 >>> conversion technology of Scribd: >>> >>> Keynote from our CTO: >>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wultk6iKXk&feature=PlayList&p=B415D73E4A22F82E&playnext_from=PL&index=8 >>> HTML5<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wultk6iKXk&feature=PlayList&p=B415D73E4A22F82E&playnext_from=PL&index=8%0AHTML5>example >>> documents: >>> http://www.scribd.com/documents/30964170/Scribd-in-HTML5 >>> http://www.scribd.com/documents/5/Paper-5 >>> Engineering blog (will start containing HTML5 technology posts on >>> Monday): >>> http://coding.scribd.com/ >>> >>> Matthias >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Martín Pérez >> >> Founder, >> http://www.jobsket.com >> >> >
