Regards LM (From mobile)
> On Jul 20, 2016, at 9:54 AM, Tino Heth via swift-evolution > <swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote: > > Hi Peter, > >> Am 20.07.2016 um 00:26 schrieb Peter Livesey via swift-evolution >> <swift-evolution@swift.org>: >> >> 1. I don't understand what problem this solves? > > That's just natural — most likely you have just a different mindset. > > There are already several cases where "bureaucrats try to constrict freedom" > (sorry, it's hard to come up with neutral words here... but on the other > hand: a bureaucrat may have a much more positive interpretation of this term > than I ;-), and when I noticed it for the first time, I was really baffled > why someone tries hard to push a change that creates limitations without > offering any significant benefit… > I found the missing piece to understand the situation here > http://martinfowler.com/bliki/DirectingAttitude.html > Fowler did a great job, and with this hint I realized why I couldn't find any > good arguments for the other side: There is none — at least for me, as It is > all only a matter of perspective. > The only thing missing in Fowlers three articles are good designations for > members of the two camps (I personally refer to my side as the "hackers", and > I already mentioned the "bureaucrats" ;-) > Imho the discussion would greatly improve if everybody accepted this model of > two contrary attitudes. > > This insight really helped me to keep my sanity in the face of many others > acting absolutely "nuts", fighting for a change with nothing but downsides > and not even a single example that there are situations where it would be > beneficial for me. > > So my advice: Be glad that you don't see such problems in your real work > life, and hope that the extremists who would like to completely remove > classic object orientation and cripple Swift to fully match their ideals > don't prevail ;-) That ship has sailed... it is now just a matter of the implementation details... My hopes are now on google forking swift like they did to webkit and dalvik. It won't save the apps, bug it would the servers. > > - Tino > _______________________________________________ > swift-evolution mailing list > swift-evolution@swift.org > https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution
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