Fred:

I definitely understand your points, and still itch for the thrill of tuning rf myself. Though I do like being able to hear different radio stations and formats from around the world via the internet, there is a certain dryness to the experience. It feels like "pulling down a feed," rather than "tuning in a station." Sometimes, the experience of internet listening is a little disorienting, the more "perfect" connection via the internet feels less real than feeling tethered to a distant station via it's transmitted signal, no matter how tenuous.

There's something about the act of listening hard with all of one's auditory and cognitive might to connect with a faraway station that is compelling, and as we know, addictive. And there's also the satisfaction and skill involved in "playing the instrument," le; using the various features of the radio to tune in an elusive station.

That's another area where the internet lacks romance as well as utility. To find stations, one has to hunt through various lists, try to connect to stations one at a time, endure endless buffering, changed urls, incompatible players.

The networked radio site Global Tuners (formerly DX tuners) comes closest to replicating the radio tuning experience on the internet, as one can access tuners based in various countries, and band scan the local and regional stations. Still, I know many SWL'ers/DX'ers find that experience lacking as well. It just doesn't feel like radio listening to them.

There is one bit of internet audio that holds little interest for me, and that's music-only streams with no discernible radio context. I still like at least the illusion of someone else's mind and ear guiding my experience.

David


On May 9, 2008, at 9:34 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I have found refuge in local college FM radio stations mostly and count myself fortunate that there are sufficient of these in my area. (Princeton, Temple, Burlington County, and UPenn) I can't forsake the radio experience and admit to the emotional tie of detecting actual RF. Yes, program content is the actual point but as long as there is something interesting to hear on real radio that is where I will be listening. My recently acquired analog tuner is the best yet - dial twiddling is a peculiar source of satisfaction but there it is.

This is a very personal choice. My professional life keeps me immersed in computers and networks and I can't find the necessary degree of diversion there. Silly? Perhaps. Maybe I'm just an old fashioned guy. I know you guys get where I'm coming from.


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From: David Goren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I'm using my laptop as my internet radio primarily because I may want
access to the stations that Receiva and the proprietary formats don't
carry.

That said, I'm somewhat frustrated with having to manage listening in
different programs...some in iTunes, some via Quicktime, RealAudio,
WMA etc.

I'm also waiting for the prices of the better radios to come down a
tad more.

On May 9, 2008, at 2:33 PM, Richard Cuff wrote:

None that I know of.  What is interesting, though, is that people
who use Internet Radios tend to listen longer than people who
listen on computers, from some of the wifi radio commentary I have
read.

Having said that, I have a hand-me-down Linux machine in my home
office that spends most of its time being an Internet radio (and a
print server).

The critter I am purchasing will primarily be used as a "kitchen
radio," though I might bring it into my work office from time to time.

R


On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 2:05 PM, Tim Lemmon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Alright, I'll jump in and ask.  Are there any streams you can get
on these Internet radios that I cannot get from a computer that's
connected to the Internet?
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From: David Goren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: May 9, 2008 3:12:20 PM EDT
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Subject: Re: [Swlfest] Grace Digital wifi radio $159 at Best Buy (USA)


I'm using my laptop as my internet radio primarily because I may want access to the stations that Receiva and the proprietary formats don't carry.

That said, I'm somewhat frustrated with having to manage listening in different programs...some in iTunes, some via Quicktime, RealAudio, WMA etc.

I'm also waiting for the prices of the better radios to come down a tad more.

On May 9, 2008, at 2:33 PM, Richard Cuff wrote:

None that I know of. What is interesting, though, is that people who use Internet Radios tend to listen longer than people who listen on computers, from some of the wifi radio commentary I have read.

Having said that, I have a hand-me-down Linux machine in my home office that spends most of its time being an Internet radio (and a print server).

The critter I am purchasing will primarily be used as a "kitchen radio," though I might bring it into my work office from time to time.

R


On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 2:05 PM, Tim Lemmon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Alright, I'll jump in and ask. Are there any streams you can get on these Internet radios that I cannot get from a computer that's connected to the Internet?
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