I my case that depends on what I am looking for.  Sometimes I just want
audio background -- because I can't devote that "cognitive might" (wonderful
phrase, David) due to whatever else I am doing at that time.  In those
situations a music-only experience -- with controlled variability -- is what
I prefer; that's the time when I will listen to pandora.com.

David's point about the "dryness" of Internet radio tuning is also well
taken.  That is one element that becomes a bit closer to the radio
experience when one tunes a wifi radio, because you interact with it
somewhat like interacting with a radio.

Maybe those who don't *compartmentalize* the experience are those for whom
radio holds special appeal -- it's that whole act of tuning, discovery,
tweaking, listening, and re-tweaking  that holds appeal.

The intriguing part is how many folks younger than 30 have little to no
experience tuning a radio -- it simply does not strike them as a thing to
do.  More than a few in that age bracket have never tuned the mediumwave
band -- at all -- let alone a shortwave band.

Rich C

On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 10:28 PM, David Goren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Fred:
> I definitely understand your points, and still itch for the thrill of
> tuning rf myself. Though I do like being able to hear different radio
> stations and formats from around the world via the internet, there is a
> certain dryness to the experience. It feels like "pulling down a feed,"
> rather than "tuning in a station." Sometimes, the experience of internet
> listening is a little disorienting, the more "perfect" connection via the
> internet feels less real than feeling tethered to a distant station via it's
> transmitted signal, no matter how tenuous.
>
> There's something about the act of listening hard with all of one's
> auditory and cognitive might to connect with a faraway station that is
> compelling, and as we know, addictive. And there's also the satisfaction and
> skill involved in "playing the instrument," le; using the various features
> of the radio to tune in an elusive station.
>
> That's another area where the internet lacks romance as well as utility. To
> find stations, one has to hunt through various lists, try to connect to
> stations one at a time, endure endless buffering, changed urls, incompatible
> players.
>
> The networked radio site Global Tuners (formerly DX tuners) comes closest
> to replicating the radio tuning experience on the internet, as one can
> access tuners based in various countries, and band scan the local and
> regional stations. Still, I know many SWL'ers/DX'ers find that experience
> lacking as well. It just doesn't feel like radio listening to them.
>
> There is one bit of internet audio that holds little interest for me, and
> that's music-only streams with no discernible radio context. I still like at
> least the illusion of someone else's mind and ear guiding my experience.
>
>
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