Cyrille,
Further thoughts...
One kludgey way forward is to build two LXXM modules.
1. With Joshua-A, Judges-A, etc.
2. With Joshua-B, Judges-B, etc
The .conf files About would each need to refer to the other module.
NB. SWORD does not allow a hyphen in a module name, but the low line _ is a
valid character.
David
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On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 09:06, David Haslam <dfh...@protonmail.com> wrote:
> Cyrille,
>
> Even if you build the module from IMP using imp2vs, any duplicated verses
> will be overwritten by the occurrence in the second instance.
>
> The module would thus lose content that exists in the source text.
>
> David
>
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> On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 07:33, Cyrille <lafricai...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Le 06/01/2018 à 21:19, David Haslam a écrit :
>>
>>> Now that you understand that, does this change anything regarding the
>>> proposed three new catholic lit av11ns ?
>>
>> No because for the Catholic we have not to do a "compromise" of different
>> version, all version are the same.
>>
>> For LXX, I don't understand exactly what to do with the LXXM.imp file. For
>> this reason I propose to create a new module with all the LXX books from
>> Rahlfs version (Or you can give me the way to use the LXXM.imp :) ). If
>> someone desire to have the Strong and Morpho he can still install the "old"
>> module.
>> After, if someone can add to the new LXX osis file, strong and he can use
>> this new source file.
>>
>>> Best regards, David
>>>
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>>> On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 20:09, Cyrille <lafricai...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Le 06/01/2018 à 20:51, Troy A. Griffitts a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>> Dear Cyrille,
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you taking into account my comment about our v11ns being supersets
>>>>> from multiple Bibles and the comments at the beginning of the LXX v11n?
>>>>
>>>> No sorry I missed it! Ok it's clear. I understand well.
>>>>
>>>>> // This is a compromise versification system, intended to allow encoding
>>>>> of Bibles using a number of slightly varying LXX-based versification
>>>>> systems. In particular, it was produced in consultation with OTs:
>>>>> // Rahlfs', Swete's, Tischendorf's, & Thomson's editiNOtions
>>>>> // R. H. Charles' & James H. Charlesworth's anthologies of Apocrypha &
>>>>> Pseudepigrapha
>>>>> // Henry E. J. Howard's Pentateuch and R. R. Ottley's Isaiah translations
>>>>> from the LXX
>>>>>
>>>>> // In addition to the LXX OT, the GNT has been included in this system to
>>>>> facilitate production of modern Bibles such as the OSB, which are
>>>>> translated from the LXX but include the NT as well. The following NTs
>>>>> were consulted in producing this versification system:
>>>>> // Antoniades' Patriarchal GNT and its translation, the EOB
>>>>> // the NKJV (OSB NT) & NRSV translations
>>>>>
>>>>> // All of these Bibles & texts should be accomodated by this
>>>>> versification definition without requiring that any extra verses be
>>>>> appended; as a consequence, no Bible will include every verse of this
>>>>> system.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 01/06/2018 12:47 PM, Cyrille wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Le 06/01/2018 à 20:13, Troy A. Griffitts a écrit :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> These v11ns are not in the sources because we are still researching.
>>>>>>> But since these have been double checked to printed editions,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have the printing edition!! And this report is about the printing
>>>>>> edition, not about the doc file. But the doc file correspond exactly to
>>>>>> the printing edition.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I highly doubt whatever 'errors' you see are actually errors in the
>>>>>>> v11n, but rather a bad source text. I am sorry for speculating, but I
>>>>>>> know these v11ns were checked and verified by a second individual
>>>>>>> against a printed edition and also know there is a ton of low quality
>>>>>>> texts online which claim to be things which they are not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The check was not good done.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> These are simply my suspicions without having the time now to put in
>>>>>>> the research. I hope you find a way to check and confirm.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then I can confirm this :
>>>>>> The current canon_LXX.h and the LXX,rahlfs.h don't match with the
>>>>>> printing edition, I have with me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Troy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 01/06/2018 12:06 PM, Cyrille wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Le 06/01/2018 à 18:36, Troy A. Griffitts a écrit :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dear Cyrille,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I just did a brief diff between the canon_lxx.h and the
>>>>>>>>> canon_lxx-super.h I sent you in my previous email, and the
>>>>>>>>> differences don't look like anything useful. I must be mistaken
>>>>>>>>> about what this file is. Have a read of the comments in the file I
>>>>>>>>> send and those in the canon_lxx.h included in 1.8.0. They are very
>>>>>>>>> similar, but the *-super.h v11n includes this comment near the end of
>>>>>>>>> the header:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "This is not intended for critical editions that separately encode
>>>>>>>>> variant traditions of Joshua, Judges, Tobit, etc. that are already
>>>>>>>>> served by the Rahlfs versification system (q.v.)."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am not sure to what the "Rahlfs versification system (q.v.)"
>>>>>>>>> refers, nor the /quod vide/ at the end of the reference.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I could possibly refer to the analysis of Rahlfs in the LXX v11n
>>>>>>>>> folder I send to you earlier, specifically here, but I am not sure:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://crosswire.org/svn/sword-tools/trunk/versification/lxx_v11ns/canon_rahlfs.h
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My question is why this v11n are not in the sources? And I compare the
>>>>>>>> Rahlfs.h, it's not good... still a lot of issues. I ready to perform
>>>>>>>> it. Please let me know the good way to help.
>>>>>>>> But it clear for me that for the current source I have, it's not
>>>>>>>> possible to use the current LXX v11n.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But I do not see any accommodation for alternate traditions in there.
>>>>>>>>> I may need to go search old emails to dig up the discussions on this.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Troy
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 01/06/2018 09:36 AM, Cyrille wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Le 06/01/2018 à 17:16, Troy A. Griffitts a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Cyrille,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Just a few comments which I hope will clear up a few things.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The sword-tools SVN repo needs to be checked out to your computer
>>>>>>>>>>> before you can run the convert.sh for CCAT. The repo contains the
>>>>>>>>>>> .jar file you asked about. You cannot just download the individual
>>>>>>>>>>> convert.sh script.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ok It's clear. I need to clone it with hg? The user is this from the
>>>>>>>>>> automatic email send? If it is this email I can't find it again :-
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> SWORD versifications are often a superset for multiple Bibles. The
>>>>>>>>>>> SWORD engine provides a facility for frontends to easily skip empty
>>>>>>>>>>> entries. Thus, when you discover that a chapter here or a chapter
>>>>>>>>>>> there has too many verses, it is probably that way to support
>>>>>>>>>>> another Bible which has more verses for that chapter.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> LXX v11n has been researched extensively by Chris and others. There
>>>>>>>>>>> are many issues regarding the LXX which are not easily resolved,
>>>>>>>>>>> e.g., Rahlfs providing two textual traditions of the same book in
>>>>>>>>>>> parallel with different versifications. I h research for LXX in
>>>>>>>>>>> general can be found here:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://crosswire.org/svn/sword-tools/trunk/versification/lxx_v11ns/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> OK but what to do?? Is it possible to use the Rahlfs with osis2mod?
>>>>>>>>>> Because Rahlfs is not the current one. I have the Rahlfs text. If I
>>>>>>>>>> use the current LXX v11n with my text I will have really a lot of
>>>>>>>>>> issues!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hope this helps a bit.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Troy
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On January 6, 2018 9:01:01 AM MST, Cyrille
>>>>>>>>>>> [<lafricai...@gmail.com>](mailto:lafricai...@gmail.com) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Before to work on a new module for the LXX, I decided to verify the
>>>>>>>>>>>> current LXX v11n. And what was my surprise discovering many errors!
>>>>>>>>>>>> Please can you give me the list of the current modules using LXX
>>>>>>>>>>>> v11n?
>>>>>>>>>>>> I will propose a new with correction, some books give me worries,
>>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>> Esther, which contains a versification in letter, I will make you a
>>>>>>>>>>>> proposal once my verification is finished. I work with the A.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Rahlfs
>>>>>>>>>>>> (maybe the current LXX v11n was made with an other ?)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards, Br Cyrille
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