Thanks Troy!
I'll have a look at the EncodingFilters.
I think this is something not fully clear from the SWORD
documentation/examples.
Maybe these transformation points you had mentioned in the thread below
should be described somewhere in the developer wiki?
Best regards,
Tobias
On 4/3/23 6:45 PM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
Dear Tobias,
Please be sure to note my comment to you below in this thread. It is
likely the cause of your rendering issues, while other apps have no
problems.
In brief, it says that I haven't seen anywhere that you tell SWORD
what markup and encoding you want from the engine. If this is the case
you will get whatever the modules are encoded / marked up as, which
might be various things.
Hope this helps,
Troy
On January 22, 2023 12:03:22 PM MST, "Troy A. Griffitts"
<scr...@crosswire.org> wrote:
Hey guys,
Sorry for not jumping in on this thread more quickly.
Please remember, SWORD has 4 transformation points, each moving
from the module source (as described in the .conf file) to the
client's request:
RenderFilters - markup, e.g., GBF, ThML, OSIS -> XHTML
StripFilters - prep before searching
OptionFilters - turning on an off markup in the text stream based
on user options, e.g., Strongs Number, Words of Christ in Red, etc.
EncodingFilters - e.g., 8859 - > UTF-8
Module team: be sure the module has the correct Encoding value in
the .conf file (or the default)
Tobias, be sure you are creating your SWMgr with the correct
MarkupFilterMgr to do the transformation you desire, e.g., see:
https://crosswire.org/svn/sword/trunk/examples/cmdline/outrender.cpp
Hope this helps,
Troy
On 1/22/23 10:39, Fr Cyrille wrote:
HI David,
If you send me the file, I can convert it quickly in osis. I
script it from imp to usfm and the with u2o.py.
Le 22/01/2023 à 16:54, David Haslam a écrit :
Thanks Tobias,
The problem is that CrossWire no longer accepts module
submissions that use IMP format for the build process.
We’d need to have a script (or equivalent TextPipe filter) to
convert IMP to OSIS (whether directly or indirectly through some
other intermediate file format).
I’m not currently in a practical position to work on that kind
of task.
Is anyone else up to it?
Best regards,
David
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On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 15:39, Tobias Klein
<cont...@tklein.info> wrote:
The FinPR module that David sent me works fine without
rendering issues! (see screenshot below)
It would be good to upgrade the module in the repo accordingly.
Best regards,
Tobias
On 1/22/23 8:31 AM, David Haslam wrote:
Thanks Kristóf.
The rendering problem could have been fixed a decade ago!!!
Checking through my email archives yesterday, I discovered
that I had rebuilt the FinPR module exactly 10 years ago! That
rebuild used mod2imp and imp2vs and included a fix to the text
encoding implemented on the IMP textfile). The message was
sent to the modules address on 2013-01-21 but presumably never
progressed by Chris Little who was then still supposed to be
responsible for module releases and updates. He went
permanently AWOL from CrossWire around that time.
Back then we had not narrowed the policy for submitted source
text to be OSIS XML only.
I wrote privately to Tobias last night, forwarding the email
of 10 years ago complete with both attachments. He will
examine those today.
Aside: I also replaced <…> by {…} where these had wrapped the
ch:vs references that recorded av11n in the original upstream
source. In 2012, there had been no suitable av11n available in
SWORD but which we do have more recently.
mod2osis should not be used, as has already been noted.
A round trip with mod2osis and osis2mod is not lossless,
unlike one with mod2imp and imp2vs.
Best regards,
David
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On Sat, Jan 21, 2023 at 23:15, Kristof Szabo
<kristof.sz...@web.de> wrote:
I managed to get Ezra running (it was some libicu70 mess),
and yes, the accented characters in this module are broken
(as other modules accented characters are OK; I assume it is
not a font issue). I tried the conf file change, but it
didn't work either.
The mitigation was to rebuild the module, mod2osis leaves
some garbage in the OSIS, but that would be easy to clean,
anyway osis2mod is possible with this garbage left in and
tada we have a proper accents.
image.png
As the module was updated last only 3,5 yrs ago I assume the
maintainer is still active, ie. they can be reached.
Or I can have a look too, the challenge is, that such a
module rebuild can open pandora's box, if I run some tests
(https://github.com/krisek/sword-test) or David checks them,
then for sure there will be some issues. I'm happy to fix
some of them, but I definitely do not speak Finnish, so I'm
not sure this would be a responsible action. If Dom gives me
the go I can fix syntax & submit, but I don't want to end up
in the rabbit hole :) Best would be to reach out to the
original maintainer.
Kind regards,
k-
On Sat, Jan 21, 2023 at 8:26 PM Greg Hellings
<greg.helli...@gmail.com> wrote:
Is Ezra properly setting encoding on the content it
renders? Is it maybe setting a font that doesn't have the
proper code points?
--Greg
On Sat, Jan 21, 2023, 13:12 Tobias Klein
<cont...@tklein.info> wrote:
Hi Kristof, David,
Adding Encoding=UTF-8 to the module conf file
~/.sword/mods.d/finpr.conf does not solve my issue.
The text still looks the same as before ...
What else could I do to further debug this?
Best regards,
Tobias
On 1/21/23 5:18 PM, Kristof Szabo wrote:
Hi Thomas,
I suppose the problem is that finpr.conf contains no
encoding information (check the Hun* modules for
reference), and if there is nothing specified
Latin-1 is the default. mod2osis (shouldn't be used
!! :)) shows that the module is in UTF-8, so there
is a misalignment.
https://wiki.crosswire.org/DevTools:conf_Files#:~:text=Plaintext-,Encoding,-UTF%2D8%0AUTF
Kind regards,
Kristof
On Sat, Jan 21, 2023 at 4:49 PM David Haslam
<dfh...@protonmail.com> wrote:
Hi Thomas,
What about other Finnish modules?
eg. FinPR92, FinRK, FinSTLK2017
Presumably you already tested (eg) German
modules and found that umlauts and eszett are
both rendered aright?
Btw. FinPR renders aright in PocketSword
(iOS/iPadOS).
David
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On Sat, Jan 21, 2023 at 15:25, Tobias Klein
<cont...@tklein.info> wrote:
Hi,
When retrieving the text of the FinPR module I
am getting some rendering issues with the
Finnish Umlauts. This is based on a user's
problem report.
Romans 5:8 returns like this in
node-sword-interface / Ezra:
Mutta Jumala osoittaa rakkautensa meit� kohtaan
siin�, ett� Kristus, kun me viel� olimme
syntisi�, kuoli meid�n edest�mme.
While it should like like this (rendered text
copied from Xiphos):
Mutta Jumala osoittaa rakkautensa meitä kohtaan
siinä, että Kristus, kun me vielä olimme
syntisiä, kuoli meidän edestämme.
This occurs both on Linux and macOS (have not
tested on Windows yet).
Any pointers what could be the root cause? I
generally have not observed rendering issues
with other modules.
Best regards,
Tobias
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