Personally I love Stack Overflow and don't use the forum and mailing list 
at all — this is my first post here. I use SO to answer questions and IRC 
for passing discussions.

SO is great for Q&A but is not meant for discussions and IRC is too much 
stuff without a particular topic, so they're not a replacement for a 
mailing list or forum — it's not either one or another.

As of forums, personally I can't stand them. Even though I don't use 
mailing lists, they feel better than forums anyway.

On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 10:52:00 AM UTC+4, Fabien Potencier wrote:
>
> Hi all, 
>
> Unfortunately and for no reasons, the Symfony2 mailing-list is gone for 
> the second time in a very short period of time. It happened some weeks 
> ago and I was not able to contact anyone about the issue. The 
> mailing-list came back and still not a single email from Google about 
> what happened. 
>
> So, I think it's time to move on. We cannot be hostages of Google for 
> our support and our knowledge base. There are several options to replace 
> the Google mailing-lists and I want to get your opinion on the best one 
> to choose before doing anything (the decision will probably also impact 
> all my other mailing-lists on Google - Swiftmailer, Silex, Twig, ...): 
>
> * A - Migrate all the discussions on the Symfony forum 
> (forum.symfony-project.org). 
>
>    * Pros: it's online since 2005, it has a massive amount of registered 
> people, we already have a big archive of knowledge there, it's written 
> with phpBB (which uses Symfony and several core team members are also 
> part of the Symfony community), it allows us to unify the community, 
> which is split right now. 
>
>    * Cons: Some people don't like forums because they want everything to 
> happen in an email client (but it might be possible to use phpBB that 
> way too). 
>
> * B - Host our own mailing-list software and provide the same kind of 
> service as Google Groups 
>
>    * Pros: The disruption won't be big with what we have now. 
>
>    * Cons: The community will still be split in two, only because of 
> some preferences. What kind of software to use? All of them seems old 
> and outdated. The only one that looks great is Lamson 
> (http://lamsonproject.org/). 
>
> * C - Use a more "modern" approach to discussions like the recently 
> released Discourse software (http://www.discourse.org/) -- which is 
> Open-Source. 
>
> Of course, relying on a third-party is not an option anymore. So, stack 
> overflow or any other forum/mailing-list providers are not an option. 
>
> jQuery chose the first option (A) some time ago and they don't seem to 
> regret it. Drupal also uses a forum and no mailing-list as far as I 
> know. So, that works. 
>
> Zend Framework and many other Open-Source projects hosts their own 
> mailing-lists. 
>
> My personal preference is either A or B without a clear winner. A is 
> probably better for the community, B is probably less disruptive. 
>
> What do you want us to do? 
>
> Cheers, 
> Fabien 
>
> -- 
> Fabien Potencier 
> SensioLabs CEO - Symfony lead developer 
> sensiolabs.com | symfony.com | fabien.potencier.org 
> +33 1 40 99 80 80 
>

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