Cool, I'll do my best to update the plugin, not sure when I'll get the time though, kinda buried atm!!
What I can probably do, is the next app I do i'll give it a whirl and merge the two. We created some features which might work nicely in it. We did the bebo abstraction which I've already explained, also we deal with CSS/JS very differently to you, we use to load it inline but now have included a ?v=1 GET variable to the script and css include tags, and increment this on each CSS/JS change, this allows us to offload all the CSS/JS hosting onto facebooks servers and makes them cache a parsed version for us :) I'll see what I can put together. Mat -----Original Message----- From: symfony-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kiril Angov Sent: 21 January 2008 18:30 To: symfony-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [symfony-users] Re: Rambo Facebook Application What you say all makes sense and I understand fully. Let me give you my thoughts. When I started making a facebook application, we already had a working site http://www.collectorsquest.com/community.html Then the question was how do we expose larger userbase to the resources of the site and of course we figured that making application for sites like Facebook would be the best first step. Now at that time it was only Facebook who provided applications (now we have the OpenSocial) but I knew that at some point Facebook will be just one of many as it turns out now so when I was writing the sfFacebookPlatformPlugin I tried to make it as transparent as possible. I encourage you to take a look at the plugin now and you will see that it is pretty much a filter between facebook and your own PHP code. So, to get to the point, we now have 2 applications in the site: one is for the main www site (apps/frontend) and the other one is for facebook (apps/facebook). And the way the plugin works, you can use all the helpers and symfony goodies without even caring that it is a facebook application. All you need to do is have a little caution in your layout.php (not to include meta tags, etc) but all javascripts and css can be in different files as usual and the plugin will concatenate and put them inline in the resulting source code so it can work in Facebook (considering you are using a canvas campared to iframe). I already helped several people to start with using the plugin and it usually took them 20 minutes to get to the basic "hello word" page in their canvas. Again, my main idea is that the plugin was made to be like a normal symfony application, which allows you to share the same code base but just have different presentation (facebook and bebo in your case). I admit that I never even considered that people will want to have no login. no add for their application and that's where you come in and add the feature to the plugin :) There was one guy who made changes because he was using it with iframe (I only tested it with a canvas). I also added some ajax capabilities to the plugin (ajax updater, for now) but this can be extended to support other javascript stuff which facebook allows. I am also thinking that whoever makes first an OpenSocial application should create a plugin for it the same way we have this for Facebook and if we tried to keep the changes as transparent as possible then it will be very easy to use and will introduce less learning curve. Kupo Mat wrote: > Hi Kupo, > > Sorry no offence was meant by not being flexible enough for our > requirements. In the applications we have produced to date (Rambo is the > exception!!), most of the time we do not even require a login, never mind an > add, and we also deal with both bebo and facebook in the same api. > > We are very much against the requirement to lock users into our application > or introduce extra steps, unless they want to use it. For example if you > goto http://apps.facebook.com/sponsor-me , or > http://apps.bebo.com/sponsor-me, your'll notice that you can fully access > these applications without even being a facebook/bebo user. Btw they both > run the same code base, but for the time being run off different DB's until > we have a new db model up and running to manage users from multiple sites on > the same DB, it is currently a "work in progress". > > When I scanned through the code, there was no option to toggle login off > altogether (this was several months ago), sure this isn't hard to add, but > when we had our own code available and it has been running since the summer > stably, there was no reason to change libraries for what to us is unknown > code. > > I was suggesting that I make some alterations to the existing plugin, I too > am not one for repeating work! The main points would be addition of the > integration into bebo and also the ability to not require a login, making > the apps available outside of their containers. > > Any Thoughts? > > Mat > > -----Original Message----- > From: symfony-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Kiril Angov > Sent: 21 January 2008 15:47 > To: symfony-users@googlegroups.com > Subject: [symfony-users] Re: Rambo Facebook Application > > > I strongly doubt that sfFacebookPlatformPlugin was "not flexible enough" > in that respect. As a matter of fact you had a configuration option for > the same feature (add vs login) And as "login" is pretty much included > into "add" (if you add the application you pretty much login also). So I > would strongly go against a new plugin clone of a plugin which I believe > to be stable and feature rich. I am sure you may need to add some of the > features you may be missing but that's just for everybody's advantage. > > Kupo > > Mat wrote: > >> Hi Dave, >> >> No I didn't, the reason for this, is that we had created a fb >> interface for symfony in a previous application, and therefore had a >> preference for going with what we understood. Also when I scanned >> through the code I found that it wasn't as flexible in the login/add >> requirements as we needed and therefore would need a significant >> rewrite to meet our needs. I was considering releasing our code as a >> plugin, however I have no idea how to create a plugin and some of the >> code would need a tidy up J. I may get round to doing some update in >> the next few days and might be able to add these to the existing >> plugin if anyone would like these? >> >> Mat >> >> *From:* symfony-users@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Dave Dash >> *Sent:* 18 January 2008 21:00 >> *To:* symfony-users@googlegroups.com >> *Subject:* [symfony-users] Re: Rambo Facebook Application >> >> Did you by chance use the FB Platform plugin? Just curious about its >> usage/use cases. >> >> On Jan 15, 2008 8:00 AM, Mat <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: >> >> >> Hi, >> >> I've been recently working on another Facebook Application in association >> with Sony, to support the upcoming Rambo Film. The Application is >> available >> at (http://apps.facebook.com/johnrambo), this has been built entirely on >> symfony, like my other applications. >> >> I would really appreciate all the feedback I can get, both +ve and -ve. >> >> Thanks in Advance. >> >> Mat >> >> >> reviewsby.us <http://reviewsby.us> >> gtalk: dave.dash >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "symfony users" group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
