Ignorance is bliss.
- Jon
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 10:04 AM, bghost <bggho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> This is generated HTML code that I got after inserting the language
> component within a table cell:
>
> <td><?php include_component('language', 'language') ?></td>
>
> where component 'language' is a component that uses Symfony WEB forms:
> (from Jobeet tutorial):
>
>
> <form action="/change_language">
> <input name="symfony" value="25f22a4d2133d1428b9bd2fb7c475162"
> type="hidden">
> </form>
> </td>
> </tr>
> <tr>
> <th><label for="language">Language</label></th>
> <td><select name="language" id="language">
> <option value="en" selected="selected">English</option>
> <option value="fr">French</option>
> </select>
>
> This is nightmare for all WEB designers.
>
> WBR,
> Ghost3D
>
> On Sep 24, 11:32 am, Matt Robinson <m...@lazycat.org> wrote:
> > On Sep 23, 12:29 pm, bghost <bggho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > First:
> > > [..] So you complicate some tasks in the Symfony
> > > framework that already was simple and good.
> >
> > Well, that's certainly an opinion.
> >
> > > Second:
> > > Almost 90% of the code that generates the Symfony framework
> > > developer need to modify or re-write
> >
> > If the generated CRUD isn't helpful, don't use it. It's a tiny part of
> > the framework that has a very specific use. You're complaining that
> > your swiss army knife is rubbish because the corkscrew is a really bad
> > tool for cutting string.
> >
> > > Third:
> > > The result of all this is a complex directory structure, many empty
> > > classes that only contain a skeleton and just inherits one of the base
> > > classes, and finally the CRUD code that always must be re-written.
> >
> > It's not complicated, it's deep. The rules are very simple. So what if
> > you don't need the base-class inheritance style for 90% of the time?
> > It doesn't stop you doing anything else, it isn't slower, and when you
> > need it, it's really, really nice to have. You're complaining that
> > some things are complicated, but refusing to learn why. Don't wave
> > your ignorance around as if it's somehow a good thing; it's offensive.
> >
> > > And to get all that, the programmer must learn a bunch of different
> > > configuration and command line options.
> >
> > Can, not must.
> >
> > > And when a programmer, after a painstaking setup and configuration
> > > of various options and parameters, finally gets the generated code,
> > > he must re-write 90% of the generated code.
> >
> > I call bullshit, sir. You're on a mailing list *full* of people who
> > are proof that this is a lie.
> >
>
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