Hi Frank, Andy, Aaron, Tim, Matthew and others, On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Matthew Brett <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 5:30 AM, Vinzent Steinberg > <[email protected]> wrote: >> On Mar 30, 6:25 am, Andy Ray Terrel <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Matthew, I would agree that civility is important, but any civility >>> guide that tells a person not to speak up with another is attacking a >>> student's proposal is as useful as toilet paper. >> >> I have to say that I'm a bit confused by the heat present in this >> thread. For sure you can say what you think, Andy. Actually, I >> encourage you to do so. There are many ways to say things, and I think >> Aaron did not mean to tell you "not to speak up", but rather to state >> your thoughts in a less emotionally heated way. > > Just in case it's useful: Andy - I interpret Aaron's request for > civility as a very gentle guide away from subtle signs that the thread > was getting a little heated. Specifically you said: "Furthermore I > find it distasteful for one > applicant to tell another that their idea is not suitable." Now, I > agree that's not notably rude, and your general point is reasonable. > However, the term 'distasteful' drifts towards an emotional treatment > of the problem - no big deal - as long as we all agree that - as you > say - civility is important. The key is - as you said in the > original email - respectful disagreement.
I was busy last few days, so I missed this thread. I just want to quickly say, that: 1) I'd like to encourage everyone to express their opinions (whatever they are, and especially if you disagree with something, go ahead and discuss it) 2) If you think that somebody said something in a way, that was maybe not appropriate, or a little over the edge, respond to that (so that the person has a feedback, that he probably went a little too far), but try not to make it personal. We are all humans, and we all make mistakes, and so good feedback is essential to learn. 3) I know most of you personally, so I know that neither of you meant it in any bad, or harmful way, and only were trying to help out. And I thank you for that. Another option is to send an off list email to the person, saying, well, I think this went a little too far, hope all is ok and no hard feelings anywhere. > >>> This thread has become a diatribe of opinions. Nevertheless, Frank, >>> you should submit this proposal and continue to submit a patch for the >>> GSOC application. >> >> I agree. Frank, please don't be scared away by conflicts in this >> thread. > > I should also say that I'm on lots of mailing lists and sympy is a > model of substantial, interesting and collegial discussion. Thanks > guys, Thank you too, for participating! Ondrej -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sympy" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sympy?hl=en.
