Le mercredi 18 mai 2011 à 16:50 -0700, asmeurer a écrit :
> Can you submit it as a pull request?
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https://github.com/sympy/sympy/pull/321

> Don't worry about isinstance.  We might as well create a
> deprecated .is_Real property, since that will be trivial.  And the
> function idea sounds good too (just don't forget to put deprecation
> warnings in there).
> 
> Aaron Meurer
> 
> On May 17, 8:34 pm, Ronan Lamy <ronan.l...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Le mardi 17 mai 2011 à 19:12 -0700, asmeurer a écrit :
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> > > On May 12, 11:13 pm, Aaron Meurer <asmeu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 10:19 PM, Ondrej Certik <ond...@certik.cz> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 7:40 PM, Ronan Lamy <ronan.l...@gmail.com> 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >> Le jeudi 12 mai 2011 à 19:22 -0700, Ondrej Certik a écrit :
> > > > >>> On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 5:28 PM, Ronan Lamy <ronan.l...@gmail.com> 
> > > > >>> wrote:
> > > > >>> > Le jeudi 12 mai 2011 à 16:06 -0700, Ondrej Certik a écrit :
> > > > >>> >> On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Aaron Meurer 
> > > > >>> >> <asmeu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >>> >> > Hi.
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> > > > >>> >> > There was a discussion over at
> > > > >>> >> >http://code.google.com/p/sympy/issues/detail?id=1721torename the
> > > > >>> >> > Real class to Float, because the name fits the class better.  
> > > > >>> >> > The
> > > > >>> >> > reasoning is that Real represents floating point numbers, not 
> > > > >>> >> > any real
> > > > >>> >> > number like sin(1) or 2*pi, and it is confusing to have the 
> > > > >>> >> > subtle
> > > > >>> >> > difference between Real and real in the docs.  See the 
> > > > >>> >> > discussion over
> > > > >>> >> > at that issue page for more info.
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> > > > >>> >> > How do people feel about this?  If it were to happen, it would 
> > > > >>> >> > happen
> > > > >>> >> > in the next release, which also breaks some other things in 
> > > > >>> >> > terms of
> > > > >>> >> > backwards compatibly.
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> > > > >>> >> It seems that most code uses some variation of Real already:
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> > > > >>> >> Sage: uses RealField and RealLiteral:
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> > > > >>> >> sage: a = 1.345
> > > > >>> >> sage: type(a)
> > > > >>> >> <type 'sage.rings.real_mpfr.RealLiteral'>
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> > > > >>> >> Mathematica uses 
> > > > >>> >> "Real":http://reference.wolfram.com/mathematica/ref/Real.html
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> > > > >>> > And their "Possible issues" section can be summed up with "Reals 
> > > > >>> > aren't
> > > > >>> > reals, reals aren't Reals". Do we need to repeat others' mistakes?
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> > > > >>> > Anyway, both Python and numpy call floats "float" which, I think, 
> > > > >>> > trumps
> > > > >>> > compatibility with Sage and Mathematica. Maple and Maxima use 
> > > > >>> > "float" as
> > > > >>> > well.
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> > > > >>> If Maple + Maxima both use float, I am ok with that. Do you have 
> > > > >>> some
> > > > >>> reference for that? I didn't manage to find one for Maple.
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> > > > >> For Maple:
> > > > >>http://www.maplesoft.com/support/help/Maple/view.aspx?path=float
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> > > > >> For Maxima:
> > > > >>http://maxima.sourceforge.net/docs/manual/en/maxima_10.html
> >
> > > > > Thanks. This looks good. I am ok with Float too. If it is not too
> > > > > hard, we can deprecate Real(), e.g. something like:
> >
> > > > > class Real(Basic)
> >
> > > > >    def __eval__ /or __new__/ ()
> > > > >        deprecated
> > > > >        return Float(*args)
> >
> > > > > Ondrej
> >
> > > > Yeah, let's do that.
> >
> > > > Aaron Meurer
> >
> > > This would still break things like isinstance(expr, Real) and
> > > expr.is_Real (I suppose we could also create a deprecated property for
> > > the last one).
> >
> > > Ronan, do you have time to update your patch for this?
> >
> > Yes, I can do it. The commit renaming Real to Float is ready, but I'm
> > not sure how to handle the deprecation. For isinstance(expr, Real), the
> > only thing we could do is to play tricks with ABCs and__subclasshook__
> > in 2.6+. For Real(...), it's probably easier to make it a just a
> > function:
> > def Real(*args, **kwargs):
> >     return Float(*args, kwargs)
> 


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