Actually, we could give you a set of non-intersecting sets fairly easily.
Your problem can be written as follows

In [2]: s = Union(Interval(2, 5)*Interval(-oo, oo), Interval(-oo,
oo)*Interval(3, 8))
In [4]: 2.complement.complement
Out[4]:
(((-∞, 2) ∪ (5, ∞)) × [3, 8]) ∪ ([2, 5] × ((-∞, 3) ∪ (8, ∞))) ∪ ([2, 5] ×
[3, 8])

Not the prettiest but it should suffice.


On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Matthew Rocklin <mrock...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Short answer here is, I think, no.
>
> The short answer *should be* that sympy.stats should be able to handle
> all of this for you at a level higher than sets. It currently errs on this
> sort of question unfortunately. It wouldn't be hard to add though. The
> infrastructure is there.
>
> Sets handles this sort of problem while it computes measures. Sadly it
> assumes a measure with density that is always equal to 1. It would be nice
> if this piece were generalized so that it would integrate a general
> function over the domain. In principle this wouldn't be challenging to
> add. The tedium that you're looking to automate is already solved in the
> various `def _measure` functions in `sympy/core/sets.py`. Unfortunately
> it's tangled up with some too-simple assumptions. You would just need to
> add an argument to all of the `_measure` methods. Presumably at the
> Interval base-layer you would replace `return self.right - self.left` with
> `return integrate(f, self)`.
>
> If you implement this on your own outside of SymPy you might find
> Union._measure helpful. It solves the annoying AuBuC == A + B + C - AB - BC
> + ABC problem generally. If this code were generalized so that
> `blah.measure` were replaced with `foo(blah)` I suspect you would have your
> problem 80% solved.
>
> Your sort of problem is exactly what I would like sympy.stats to be able
> to solve with sympy.core.sets. If I ever get more time I'll work on this.
> Probably not for a while though.
>
> I'm happy to help out if you're willing to fix the problem within
> SymPy.sets. It'd be a nice contribution.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Simon Clift <sscl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> I have a straightforward, but tedious probability problem that I need to
>> expand symbolically.  Sympy's set and interval material is close, but I
>> can't see how it would work in a multidimensional application.  I've used
>> Sympy for some fairly intricate PDE problems, but never for this sort of
>> thing, and I would appreciate any suggestions, please.
>>
>> I have a number of events that appear as, for example  2 < X < 5 and 3 <
>> Y < 8 which have associated probabilities and joint distributions (i.e. are
>> not mutually exclusive).  From basic probability and set theory
>>
>>    p( 2<X<5 \cup 3<Y<8) = p( 2<X<5 ) + p( 3<Y<8 ) - p( 2<X<5 \cap 3<Y<8 )
>>
>> and so on.  My problems start with about 6 unions that are intersections
>> fo 2 conditions each, all in 3 variables, so requires both the expansion
>> above and reduction for intersecting intervals.  It isn't difficult, just
>> tedious (and error-prone).
>>
>> I was about to hand-roll the symbolic algebra as Python classes, but I
>> was wondering if there was a way to approach this with Sympy's intervals
>> module.  It's not clear to me, from the docs or from experimentation, that
>> it handles multi-dimensional problems.
>>
>> Best regards
>> -- Simon
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