We used to use IRC a long time ago, but we stopped when we switched to
gitter. We should probably close down the channel and remove the link to
the logs. I think we left them up because the logging service we used had a
requirement that we have a link to the logs on our website.

Aaron Meurer

On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 3:59 PM Nikhil Maan <nikhilmaa...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I don't think the website has any major limitations. It's still pretty
> good and definitely does the job. But it can still use some minor
> improvements.
>
> Here are some of the things I think can be updated. The landing page looks
> a little cluttered, we can clean that up a little bit. The last change to
> the roadmap was 2 years ago, might as well update it. I think the support
> and Development pages can also be merged and improved, and the other pages
> can also use a revision. Sometimes from the looks, the website feels it was
> created by someone as a hobby for a project handled by a couple of people,
> not a project with hundreds of developers, but that's just my opinion.
>
> Now, our conference, PyCon India, is getting really close, so I'm a little
> crunched on time this weekend. So, I'll come up with the survey questions
> for users in a couple of days, sometime this week. We can also advertise
> the survey on our twitter along with the mailing list and GitHub.
>
> As for the static generator, let me do some research and see if changing
> to another generator would bring any useful feature without much effort of
> porting. I'll come back to that and create an issue if I find something
> suitable that can be useful to us, otherwise, we can just revise and update
> the content.
>
> P.S.: Going through the website, I checked the IRC logs, and they look
> mostly empty except a few people joining and leaving sometime. So, we have
> an IRC channel? and we're not using it?
>
> Regards,
> Nikhil Maan
>
> On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 1:26:54 AM UTC+5:30 asme...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> I'm curious what you see as the limitations of the existing website? I
>> personally think our current website is fine. Maybe some of the content
>> could be improved or moved around a bit, but I don't know if that
>> necessitates a new static generator for it.
>>
>> Aaron Meurer
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 8:32 AM Jason Moore <moore...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Nikhil,
>>>
>>> I recommend creating some kind of survey with carefully crafted
>>> questions to discover what the SymPy community (users and devs) might want
>>> in a website upgrade. Maybe you can come up with 5 or 6 key questions that
>>> take < 5 mins to complete to try to get a broad sampling of opinions and
>>> then advertise it beyond the mailing list and Github. Given the results, I
>>> would lean to prioritizing SymPy user needs over SymPy developer needs in
>>> the work you do. It may be tempting to spend lots of time on a fancy
>>> website build system instead of updating the content, organization, and
>>> appearance of the website, but I believe the latter is much more important.
>>>
>>> As for choice in static site generators I'd recommend 1) choosing one
>>> that is very likely to be popular and well maintained in the long run, 2)
>>> reduces the amount of work needed to convert from the current website, 3)
>>> and, if possible, written in Python because our community knows Python and
>>> will have little trouble writing extensions, modifications, for any special
>>> things we desire.
>>>
>>> Good idea! Share the proposal as you draft it and we can give you
>>> feedback.
>>>
>>> Jason
>>> moorepants.info
>>> +01 530-601-9791 <(530)%20601-9791>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 3:08 PM Nikhil Maan <nikhil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey folks,
>>>>
>>>> I would like to work on this as a NUMFOCUS grant project. What kind of
>>>> changes do we want in the website?
>>>> As for the static generators, in my experience, I found hugo to be
>>>> simpler and easier to use for everyone and it also has a vast library of
>>>> themes that we can use.  The main problem I've had with it is it's in a pre
>>>> v1 release, so some things do tend to break sometimes with some releases.
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, May 28, 2020 at 9:16:02 PM UTC+5:30 nicog...@gmail.com
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I think that using a static generator would have advantages from the
>>>>> translation point-of-view as well.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, May 27, 2020 at 3:27:28 PM UTC-5, Aaron Meurer wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think we can modify the backend, but we should be prepared as
>>>>>> mentors to do the programming work. Conversely, I don't know if it
>>>>>> would make sense to make any changes without feedback from a
>>>>>> technical
>>>>>> writer if we are going to get one, so I don't know if it makes sense
>>>>>> to do anything like this now, aside from initial research into what
>>>>>> alternatives are out there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Aaron Meurer
>>>>>>
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