Hi,

[as contributor]
Traditionally, standards are based on some level of agreement across
multiple implementations about what should be standardized.

I have looked at syslog MIB modules from multiple vendors and have not
found any that model the same concepts that the current syslog MIB
models. Our current Devcice MIB is about configuring and monitoring
the applications that use syslog. I have concerns about having this WG
produce a MIB module that nobody seems to want. The industry doesn't
seem to have "rough consensus" that this is the MIB that is needed.

Vendor-specific MIB modules seems to focus on one of two approaches
towards monitoring syslog activity - modeling a single syslog daemon,
or capturing syslog messages in a MIB table so the logged information
can also be accessed via SNMP.

My limited research indicates that syslog.conf is the defacto standard
for configuration of syslog. I wonder if there is enough similarity
between vendors to develop a standard for those aspects related to the
work of this WG.

dbh

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Juergen Schoenwaelder 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 5:15 PM
> To: Chris Lonvick
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Syslog] Documenting the configuration of syslog
> 
> On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 12:59:25PM -0800, Chris Lonvick wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> I do not understand whether this is a discussion for re-chartering
the
> syslog WG or whether this is a discussion to clarify the current
> charter or something else.
> 
> Taking the charter question aside for the moment, I personally can
see
> value in having an information model defined (what are the
conceptual
> knobs you have and what do they affect in the processing of syslog
> messages). I am not sure what the value of trying a standard .conf
> file is or whether this is feasible at all. (Like we found out that
> traditional syslog implementations are very different, we might find
> out that the .conf files that go along with traditional syslog
> implementations have a similar degree of differences).
> 
> Turning back to the existing charter, I also note that this WG is in
> the security area and one can of course raise the question whether
> syslog configuration is a subject for this WG in this area. So
perhaps
> it is sufficient list the things an implementation needs to know in
> order to use the security mechanism and the rest can be left to the
> OPSEC WG to work out.
> 
> /js
> 
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