Alan
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Subject: RE: t-and-f: Lgat's B Sample Negative
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 13:25:52 -0500
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Yes, there are cheats in track and field like any other pro sports. However, it bothers me is that quite a number of people on this list seem to hold the view that you have to cheat in order to be good. Consequently statements such as "when a top athlete is busted I'm not shocked" implies that almost all top runners, jumpers, and throwers are dirty.
Andrew Owusu
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of alan tobin Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 11:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: Lgat's B Sample Negative
It doesn't matter if no one cares about it as long as there is a lot of money involved then there will be cheaters in the sport. Players cheat in baseball and other sports. Why not track and field? Is this sport and the Kenyan culture so angelic that it's beyond belief? Go to Nairobi and tell me that Kenyans are so angelic they wouldn't even take an asprin much less use EPO *Shock* *Awe*. I simply believe most of the top athletes in the world are using something. That's my opinion. This way when a top athlete is busted I'm not shocked. Even a B rate sport like track and field and road racing has enough money in it that many people will cheat to win that money.
Alan
>From: Mike Prizy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: alan tobin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: t-and-f: Lgat's B Sample Negative >Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 15:20:27 -0500 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net ([204.127.198.35]) by >mc12-f24.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Wed, 1 Oct 2003 >19:38:56 -0700 >Received: from comcast.net >(12-248-211-198.client.attbi.com[12.248.211.198]) by comcast.net >(rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003100120173901300cnmmme> >(Authid: mikeprizy); Wed, 1 Oct 2003 20:17:40 +0000 >X-Message-Info: yilqo4+6kc5ElR6/ZLG8HLbynwyqYHhZ >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 (Macintosh; U; PPC) >X-Accept-Language: en,pdf >References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Oct 2003 02:38:56.0975 (UTC) >FILETIME=[53D5A5F0:01C3888E] > >Conspiracy theories??? For a sport most could careless about??? >Collaboration between some or all >200 federations who can't get along with each other??? > >And, on Page 2 of the supermarket tabloid ... the IAAF and USATF are >actually ruled by Ollan Cassell >at his double-secret headquarters at Area 51, near the hanger where the
>alien spaceship is housed, >next to Elvis' office. > >alan tobin wrote: > > > Why would we Mike? It's not like there is a lot of money at stake or
>that > > other sports are filled with cheats. In my world the sky is always clear >and > > people help old ladies cross the street. > > > > Alan > > > > >From: Mike Prizy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Reply-To: Mike Prizy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >To: Michael Contopoulos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Subject: Re: t-and-f: Lgat's B Sample Negative > > >Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 12:59:07 -0500 > > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > > >Received: from mc9-f25.hotmail.com ([65.54.166.32]) by >mc9-s13.hotmail.com > > >with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Wed, 1 Oct 2003 11:13:06 -0700 > > >Received: from darkwing.uoregon.edu ([128.223.142.13]) by > > >mc9-f25.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Wed, 1 Oct >2003 > > >11:04:53 -0700 > > >Received: from darkwing.uoregon.edu ([EMAIL PROTECTED] [127.0.0.1])by > > >darkwing.uoregon.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h91HuiIK011974for > > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 10:56:44 -0700 > > >(PDT) > > >Received: (from [EMAIL PROTECTED])by darkwing.uoregon.edu > > >(8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id h91HuiUO011968for t-and-f-outgoing; Wed, 1 >Oct > > >2003 10:56:44 -0700 (PDT) > > >Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net > > >[204.127.202.64])by darkwing.uoregon.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP >id > > >h91HugIK011530for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 >10:56:43 > > >-0700 (PDT) > > >Received: from comcast.net > > >(12-248-211-198.client.attbi.com[12.248.211.198]) by >comcast.net > > >(sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <20031001175637016005uf3je> > > >(Authid: mikeprizy); Wed, 1 Oct 2003 17:56:37 +0000 > > >X-Message-Info: QY4hSA9XRFMMSePXohvdfHfvte0BQUfJyVk9xOTiDwY= > > >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 (Macintosh; U; PPC) > > >X-Accept-Language: en,pdf > > >References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Precedence: bulk > > >Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Oct 2003 18:04:55.0245 (UTC) > > >FILETIME=[84BB1FD0:01C38846] > > > > > >This is why positive A samples should never be released - or leaked - >to > > >the public. Now the > > >conspiracy folks are going to have a field day. > > > > > >Michael Contopoulos wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >http://www.trackandfieldnews.com/general/features/2003/lagat_b_netative _20031001.html > > > > > > > > www.trackandfieldnews.com > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > High-speed Internet access as low as $29.95/month (depending on the > > >local > > > > service providers in your area). Click here. >https://broadband.msn.com > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ >
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