W dniu 09.07.2014 13:39, Christoph Hormann napisał(a):
I can very much relate to that but this is not a matter that can be resolved easily. Everyone has things he/she likes to change in the
Of course, but even open projects are not completely disconnected and we can try to find a good balance.
My opinion is that the best approach would be to establish better means for people to create variants of the style and present them to a broad audicence. This would have two effects - first it would allow changes
That would be awesome! However in the meantime we can also make baby step in this direction: default "beautiful" map (current "stable" one) and default "testing" map, where we can have also all the default icons to cherry pick the best approach and use them later in the beautiful style. What do you think about it?
In general a good tagging scheme should stand alone and not be designed specifically for a certain rendering. To this aim it is quite good not to have a too close connection between tagging and rendering. A tag that contains useful and specific information can also be useful in rendering even if the actual way it is rendered is not considered during tag design.
In ideal world DTP (I do it sometimes) doesn't need to be checked by the authors, but in reality some hints are even helpful for the best end result, because documents rarely are self-explanatory. Also the remarks from DTP operator help authors to choose easier ways of doing something.
I said before, that I treat "Rendering" option as a hint for rendering team, not a duty, so I can agree with you. That is not "too close" connection, but a two-way communication interface: I said also, that rendering team can express their views and try to reach the common ground or just clearly state the reasons of a difference. Rendering issues can also convince the proposition author to rethink the tagging rules - it's just one more input in the brainstorm. I can't think of it as a problem at all. Total separation is needed to make something more secure, not more useful, especially in open projects, where we choose project roles as we like it and can have more than one at the time.
Fixed zoom threshold are one of the major problems of the current map style, they are selected to look fine for a certain area, usually the favorite city of the one making the style decision. Choose a different area where the map scale is different or the geographic setting leads to a different distribution of POIs and things fall apart quickly.
So are fixed highways classification: primary road in rural countries can look like a track in developed ones... But it's just the cost of trying to make things consistent in global scale, not the specific rendering issue and we can't fully get rid of it. Maybe we have to make some local rules too, but than we loose a bit of uniformity - and we can look for the best balance between those things.
But in the model with stable and testing default map we can put everything to testing and see if it works or not. Even if we will hit the wall hard with some cases, the good ones won't be stopped from being used in the stable and if someone likes to see everything and more, she will have the option to do it.
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