As a perhaps helpful example, near my old home in Portland, OR, USA
there was a "retreat" facility operated by the catholic diocese. It
featured extensive grounds that you might call a park, except that they
were fenced and intended for religious or reflective use, with shrines
and such placed throughout. This is visible in iD at
https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?relation=186579#map=18/45.49915/-122.61703
[3], and you will see that it is currently not marked with any polygon
(although there is a point for the church and school with the same
operator). 

I think there should be a polygon for this site, but a 'park' tagging is
not really appropriate since it is not open to the public and not
intended for many of the uses of a park anyway (e.g. you wouldn't run
your dog there). But I'm not sure how it being out of public access
changes the situation. 

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Jesse B. Crawford
Student, Information Technology
New Mexico Inst. of Mining & Tech

https://jbcrawford.us || je...@jbcrawford.us
https://cs.nmt.edu/~jcrawford || jcrawf...@cs.nmt.edu

On 2014-07-31 06:48 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 

> 2014-07-31 14:31 GMT+02:00 Tom Pfeifer <t.pfei...@computer.org>:
> 
>> If you look at http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/landuse=religious#map 
>> [1] you see
>> the highest density of use in Poland and Ireland, where apparently a lot of
>> constellations are in need for such a tag.
>> 
>> Certainly it does not target a prayer room in a multifunctional building or a
>> church squeezed wall-to-wall into a row of inner-city terraced buildings.
> 
> I agree that words like "nonesense" should be kept out of constructive 
> discussions. 
> 
> Could you give some examples where landuse=religious does make sense? I have 
> not seen any definition for this so far. What would be a religious 
> activity/usage, that is not worshipping and is not covered by other landuses? 
> Are you aware of the possibility to add "religion=*" and "denomination=*" to 
> any feature to mark religious affiliation?
> 
> Do you agree on putting amenity=place_of_worship on the sacred area, and not 
> just on the building (e.g. church)?
> 
> FYI, I am mapping in Rome and so far we haven't yet discovered a need for 
> landuse=religious despite the fact there are really lots of features related 
> to the catholic church (I have read estimates that one fourth of the city of 
> Rome is owned by the catholic church).
> 
> cheers, 
> Martin 
> 
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