Assembling a draft page. it is my first "draft page", so my syntax is kinda 
crap.  I will be working on the details of the proposal later today. 

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/landuse%3Dcivic


Javbw

On Nov 4, 2014, at 9:03 AM, Tom Pfeifer <t.pfei...@computer.org> wrote:

> ok, now we have 
> landuse={governmental|public_administrative|civic|civil|public}
> 
> For my taste, public implies much more openness than we have from some
> ministries, immigration offices etc, but is certainly a value to consider.
> 
> I would like to put a RFC page together towards the end of the week,
> so it would be nice it the other contributors to this discussion would
> indicate under which title we should start it.
> 
> tom
> 
> johnw wrote on 2014-11-04 00:40:
> > and the line between public and private is not one OSM singles out very 
> > much (is is a public school vs a private school?), but things are separated 
> > by function. and the functions are of a civic government (pnsion offices, 
> > taxes, judicial, etc). I would use
> > the word "public" or “government” but civil (opoopsite of military or 
> > company use) is a good fit, and civic is basically “for civil”, so it works 
> > well enough - and matches a pre-existing approved building subtag.
> >
> > Javbw
> 
> 
> Clifford Snow wrote on 2014-11-04 00:30:
>> 
>> On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 4:02 PM, johnw <jo...@mac.com <mailto:jo...@mac.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>    Civic is what I suggested a few months ago. but where the line is drawn 
>> is up for debate: what is included in this catch-all, and what isn’t.
>> 
>>    I’ve tried arguing that each class should have their own catch-all 
>> landuse - eg: we have residential/ retail/ industrial/ commericial - and 
>> hundreds of different tags to properly define the the buildings that would 
>> fall into these 4 land uses.
>> 
>>    I believe there is a good case for landuse=civic (name matches 
>> building=civic) to cover the basic landuse of a myriad of 
>> public/civic/institutional/state services that could be tagged with more 
>> specific amenity tags, or a new civic=• subtag - either
>>    through point markers, building labels, or on the area with the landuse.
>> 
>>    Let the landuse denote class, and the other tags take care of the detail. 
>> just like with residential / commercial / retail / industrial.
>> 
>>    if you want to slice out a service  (eg, school, hospital, airport), 
>> that’s fine - but I think there is enough leftover to warrant another broad 
>> landuse class.
>> 
>> 
>> I just noticed that my local government uses "public" for these types of 
>> landuse. That seems like a appropriate land use for most of the usages 
>> described. Civic refers to the duties of people associated with their 
>> governments. Public refers to being "open"
>> as in the lands and buildings.
>> 
>> Clifford
>> 
>> 
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