+1
But make it 1-8 note grade1-grade8 for simplicity IMHO. The
grade1-grade5 for tracktype is an error in itself...
It does not matter if it's easier or more difficult - the main thing is
that people using it should know what they enter. With the current
values like good some mappers just use it without knowing what is behind
the value - therefore often rendering smoothness unusable - because the
values are unrealiable.
On 12.03.2015 10:36, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
2015-03-11 23:15 GMT+01:00 David <dban...@internode.on.net
<mailto:dban...@internode.on.net>>:
I consider the definitions quite reasonable for this tag.
Yes,there is a degree of subjectiveness there,there has to be
given what it is trying to do. Honestly, we really need to got
over this dread fear of being subjective. Not everything can be
measured in integer numbers, great when it can be but accept it
when what is being described is, by its nature, difficult.
+1, I believe that the main problem are the value names. If these were
called grade1 to grade8 many more people would likely use these values
and I guess there would be much fewer objections. The property of
smoothness is really quite important to many users of a road, in the
more extreme cases likely important to all.
The thing is, that these verbal descriptions of a smoothness hierarchy
are mostly not easier to apply than any numeric scale. "Excellent",
"good" and "impassable" are exceptions, but you can't tell the
dfifference between "bad", "very_bad", "horrible" and "very_horrible"
without looking this up in the wiki.
I suggest to add another column to the definition which is about
objective figures (without removing the use classes), e.g. the biggest
grain size you can frequently find on the road (i.e. the biggest rocks
/ pebbles) and or the size of eventual cracks and holes, the steepness
of steps, height of humps, etc.
cheers,
Martin
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