Hi José,

I see you mention Google imagery. Please don't jeopardize the project by
using that. We have permission to use Bing, Mapbox, DigitalGlobe, Esri.
They are all accessible in a convenient way in JOSM.
For horizontal streetview imagery we have Mapillary and OpenStreetCam.

Jo

2017-10-18 0:28 GMT+02:00 José G Moya Y. <josem...@gmail.com>:

> Hi!
> I'm just a novice, but after two months following this list I understand
> that:
>
> a) Tags are grouped by function. Some street forniture is just for people
> to enjoy them, some needs to be located by GPS navigators (traffic lights,
> barriers such as bollards) or emergency services (fire hydrants).
>
> b) Some services need to use short tags due GPX file format restriction.
> That was the motivation that raised up the proposal on new fire_hidrant
> tags. If firemen were upset for having to put complicate
> "emergency=fire_hidrant, fire_hydrant:flow_rate=blah blah" tags, imagine
> the situation if they need to look for "street_forniture=emergency,
> emergency=fire_hydrant..."
>
> c) Street forniture is difficult to map accurately. You need precise GPS
> hardware/software (my casual mapping has a 5 meter error margin), you need
> precise aerial imaginery (google is now very precise for cities at roof
> level, but shadows hide details at ground level), and you have a lot of
> objects to map and a very short time until the maintenance contract expires
> and the street forniture moves or disappears. That's the reason I map
> picnic tables in the wilderness but I don't do it in parks: tables are too
> close when inside cities.
>
> I understand that tagging street forniture would be useful for local
> authorities, since they (at least in Spain) do not take it in account
> before giving permits to new street forniture or street bars, and the final
> result is a sidewalk full of obstacles for pedestrians. But moving all
> street forniture into a category of its own seems to raise more
> difficulties than having it split into separate categories.
>
> Regards.
>
>
> El 17/10/2017 23:44, "François Lacombe" <fl.infosrese...@gmail.com>
> escribió:
>
> Hi,
>
> Let's not forget street cabinets :)
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dstreet_cabinet
>
> As Warin said, all those things (including cabinets) may not always be
> along streets.
> "street" term may be understood as "outdoor".
>
> Would you create a key to move all the list from ma_made/maenity/... to
> one like "street_furniture" ?
>
> All the best
>
>
> *François* <http://www.twitter.com/InfosReseaux>
>
> 2017-10-17 23:08 GMT+02:00 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Some of these things are not all, necessarily, along side streets - e.g.
>> a bench in a park.
>>
>> On 18-Oct-17 07:31 AM, hvdb wrote:
>>
>> my proposal = to make things simplier ; if there would be a key =
>> street_furniture , all those 'things' mentioned (benches / fire hydrants /
>> plant_containers / street_poles / streetlamps / bollards / traffic_signs /
>> traffic_lights / etc. etc.) could then arranged in 1 key  . And if
>> 'necessary', one could add more 'details' (for i.e. emergency / amenity /
>> support / etc.)
>>
>> 2017-10-17 20:27 GMT+02:00 hvdb <henk...@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> *Street furniture* is a collective term (used in the United Kingdom
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom>[1]
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Street_furniture#cite_note-1>, Australia
>>> [2] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Street_furniture#cite_note-2> and
>>> Canada <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada>[3]
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Street_furniture#cite_note-3>[4]
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Street_furniture#cite_note-4>) for
>>> objects and pieces of equipment installed along streets and roads for
>>> various purposes. It includes benches
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bench_%28furniture%29>, traffic barriers
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_barrier>, bollards
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bollard>, post boxes
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_box>, phone boxes
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phone_box>, streetlamps
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streetlamp>, traffic lights
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_light>, traffic signs
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_sign>, bus stops
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_stop>, tram stops
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tram_stop>, taxi stands
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxi_stand>, public lavatories
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilet#Public_toilets>, fountains
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fountain>, watering troughs
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watering_trough>, memorials
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memorial>, public sculptures
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_art>, and waste receptacles
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waste_receptacles>. The design and
>>> placement of furniture takes into account aesthetics, visual identity,
>>> function, pedestrian mobility and road safety.
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Street_furniture
>>>
>>
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