Hi! I'm just a novice, but after two months following this list I understand that:
a) Tags are grouped by function. Some street forniture is just for people to enjoy them, some needs to be located by GPS navigators (traffic lights, barriers such as bollards) or emergency services (fire hydrants). b) Some services need to use short tags due GPX file format restriction. That was the motivation that raised up the proposal on new fire_hidrant tags. If firemen were upset for having to put complicate "emergency=fire_hidrant, fire_hydrant:flow_rate=blah blah" tags, imagine the situation if they need to look for "street_forniture=emergency, emergency=fire_hydrant..." c) Street forniture is difficult to map accurately. You need precise GPS hardware/software (my casual mapping has a 5 meter error margin), you need precise aerial imaginery (google is now very precise for cities at roof level, but shadows hide details at ground level), and you have a lot of objects to map and a very short time until the maintenance contract expires and the street forniture moves or disappears. That's the reason I map picnic tables in the wilderness but I don't do it in parks: tables are too close when inside cities. I understand that tagging street forniture would be useful for local authorities, since they (at least in Spain) do not take it in account before giving permits to new street forniture or street bars, and the final result is a sidewalk full of obstacles for pedestrians. But moving all street forniture into a category of its own seems to raise more difficulties than having it split into separate categories. Regards. El 17/10/2017 23:44, "François Lacombe" <fl.infosrese...@gmail.com> escribió: Hi, Let's not forget street cabinets :) https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dstreet_cabinet As Warin said, all those things (including cabinets) may not always be along streets. "street" term may be understood as "outdoor". Would you create a key to move all the list from ma_made/maenity/... to one like "street_furniture" ? All the best *François* <http://www.twitter.com/InfosReseaux> 2017-10-17 23:08 GMT+02:00 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: > Some of these things are not all, necessarily, along side streets - e.g. a > bench in a park. > > On 18-Oct-17 07:31 AM, hvdb wrote: > > my proposal = to make things simplier ; if there would be a key = > street_furniture , all those 'things' mentioned (benches / fire hydrants / > plant_containers / street_poles / streetlamps / bollards / traffic_signs / > traffic_lights / etc. etc.) could then arranged in 1 key . And if > 'necessary', one could add more 'details' (for i.e. emergency / amenity / > support / etc.) > > 2017-10-17 20:27 GMT+02:00 hvdb <henk...@gmail.com>: > >> *Street furniture* is a collective term (used in the United Kingdom >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom>[1] >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Street_furniture#cite_note-1>, Australia >> [2] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Street_furniture#cite_note-2> and >> Canada <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada>[3] >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Street_furniture#cite_note-3>[4] >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Street_furniture#cite_note-4>) for >> objects and pieces of equipment installed along streets and roads for >> various purposes. It includes benches >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bench_%28furniture%29>, traffic barriers >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_barrier>, bollards >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bollard>, post boxes >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_box>, phone boxes >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phone_box>, streetlamps >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streetlamp>, traffic lights >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_light>, traffic signs >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_sign>, bus stops >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_stop>, tram stops >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tram_stop>, taxi stands >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxi_stand>, public lavatories >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilet#Public_toilets>, fountains >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fountain>, watering troughs >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watering_trough>, memorials >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memorial>, public sculptures >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_art>, and waste receptacles >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waste_receptacles>. The design and >> placement of furniture takes into account aesthetics, visual identity, >> function, pedestrian mobility and road safety. >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Street_furniture >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing > listTagging@openstreetmap.orghttps://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
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