One further tag that should be of use ?
description=VTC only

That should be helpful.


On 22/08/18 09:05, Warin wrote:
OK, so this is an access restriction - e.g.
access=private
private=VTC (or some other term that is applicable around the world, say private_hire_vehicle?)

If pedestrians are still allowed to use it then
motor_vehicle=private
private=VTC (or some other term that is applicable around the world, say private_hire_vehicle?)

and so on for other access restrictions.

On 21/08/18 23:05, yo paseopor wrote:
Yes , it is restricted to these vehicles. In the ground and in the traffic signs you can read VTC (Uber, Cabify). I said I don't want discussion about what is a VTC really and if should they exist. I only want to know how to map it, because in the Barcelona's harbour there are spots specifically tagged with VTC road marks, and I think they are not PSV vehicles so... what is it? How to map it? Also, in Madrid there is a lot of shared cars. How to map it? OSM's Wiki is so weak in these two terms.

Thanks
Salut i places d'aparcament
yopaseopor

On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 2:29 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    On 21/08/18 20:26, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:


    sent from a phone

    On 21. Aug 2018, at 10:55, José G Moya Y. <josem...@gmail.com
    <mailto:josem...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    VTC is how rental cars with professional driver are called in
    Spain. I think the rest of the thread clarifies this: It is the
    Spanish name for Uber, Cabify and other companies that provide
    private transport services but are not taxis (their cars are
    not equipped with taxi meter).


    rental with a driver is a regulated category different to taxis
    in some jurisdictions, e.g. in Germany and Italy (and probably
    many more, e.g. France [1]). AFAIK neither in Italy nor in
    Germany Uber qualifies. In Italy they are called NCC and you
    need a license, are not allowed to pick up customers nor to park
    your vehicle on public space. The Italian WP says they are a
    kind of public transport without routes, the German WP says they
    aren’t (in Germany). Uber (and others) don’t qualify because
    they don’t meet the requirements (their drivers don’t generally
    have a P-license in Germany, needed for the transport of people,
    they don’t typically have the NCC license in Italy, and they
    don’t adhere to other rules and regulations for this kind of
    transport). They are operating in a grey area, pretending the
    service is assimilable to picking up hitchhikers
    (commercialization of the sharing economy).

    If there are specific parking or resting areas for vehicles that
    provide a kind of service like these, we should craft the
    definitions carefully and see what we need to require in order
    to be able to identify and distinguish the different classes
    that we want.

    Rather than "what we want" it should be "what exists".

    What is being mapped?
    Places where these vehicles are parked? For what reason are they
    parked? Is it restricted to only these kind of vehicles?
    Or an office where these vehicles are managed?


    ------------------------------------------
    In at least some parts of the UK the driver needs a "private hire
    licence" for Uber.

     Humm they have taxis ... but also hire cars umm what do they
    call them? Arrr minicabs.
    The UK regards both Uber and minicabs as "private hire". How does
    the UK map minicabs?
    https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:amenity%3Dtaxi#Taxi_shops.3F
    <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:amenity%3Dtaxi#Taxi_shops.3F>
    https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=3184
    <https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=3184>

    It is a can of worms.

    .

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