On Friday 14 September 2018, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > > Christoph (@Imagico) has suggested tagging the official language > information on administrative boundary relations: > http://blog.imagico.de/you-name-it-on-representing-geographic-diversi >ty-in-names/
A few remarks here regarding this: * the choice of suggesting tagging the language information on either the administrative boundary relations or the individual features but not on any other feature with a meaning beyond the feature itself was not arbitrary. Limiting this to a well defined data basis and simple rules (here: individual feature tag and administrative unit as fallback, priority through admin_level) is a necessary prerequisite for any chance of practical use. And if you look at what systematics are used for the name tags at the moment the vast majority of choices happens on administrative units with admin_level 2-4. * the choice of tagging the locally preferred form of showing the names and not any culture specific classification into things like "official", "primary", "indigenous", "main" or "majority" was also deliberate because this seems to be the approach that least imposes a specific cultural understanding of languages onto people. * keep in mind the very idea behind this proposal is that data users have the free choice to either use the language format information in the data as is or replace or modify it with any other information. So any discussion along the lines of "i want to base the language format on some non-verifiably spatial division" is unnecessary because you obviously can always do that, you just can't have and maintain such data inside of the OSM database. * the choice of syntax for the language string is something that can be discussed obviously. You can essentially use any characters that are unlikely to occur in an actual format as structuring elements. The dollar sign is a common symbol prefix here. * the core of my proposal is not using the plain "name" tag any more for anything other than legacy fallback if other data is missing. Any proposal to separately tag the language of the name tag (several initiatives in that direction have been made in the past) is a very different idea. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
