On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 at 08:50, s8evq <s8...@runbox.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Sat, 17 Aug 2019 14:34:20 +0100, Paul Allen <pla16...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > A map with copyright permitting OSM to make use of its data.  There are
> > several walks near  me which appear on maps published by the county
> council or tourist board.
> > Copyright does  not permit me to make use of those maps.
>
> If it's government maps with permission, you could argue the case.


Nope.  Not for these.  Because the base map is explicitly copyright
Ordnance Survey.  The route
marking isn't itself copyright OS (I don't think) but copyright the county
council (not explicitly,
but the UK is a signatory to the Berne Convention).  But even with explicit
permission from the
council to use the route info on the map, I'd not use it because of the
underlying OS map
unless the OS also gave the OK.


> But I'm especially afraid a lot of "not so official" routes would be
> entered that way. I once found a kayak club had entered it's weekend trip
> in OSM.
>

According to the wiki, local routes are permitted.  All levels of walking
route from trans-national
to local.

Another argument against mapping based on other maps with permission is
> that it's a lot harder to verify. If we only map based on the presence of
> physical markers on the ground, other mappers who pass by might be able to
> spot mistakes or omission. On the other hand, when something is mapped
> based of an online PDF, I'm afraid it will not get double checked so
> quickly anymore.
>

The walks I mentioned use public footpaths, which are explicitly marked as
such.  Signs or
waymarks where they connect to a highway, waymarks as necessary along the
way.  Other
countries may do it differently, but here public footpaths are marked and
even local walking
clubs don't use routes which are not public footpaths unless the landowner
has given
explicit permission (in which case they will eventually become official
public footpaths by
dint of usage and marked as such).

-- 
Paul
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