What's the difference between highway=traffic_signals plus button_poperated=yes and highway=traffic_signals plus traffic_signals=crossing_on_demand
? On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 at 02:55, Jarek Piórkowski <ja...@piorkowski.ca> wrote: > On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 at 12:56, Paul Allen <pla16...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 at 17:43, <lukas-...@web.de> wrote: > >> The second goal my proposal wants to message is to deprecate tagging > "crossing=traffic_signals" together with "highway=traffic_signals" on the > same node. Especially if you're saying this is a full crossing mapped. It > breaks the highway=crossing - tagging scheme we use for all other types of > crossing (except crossing=no). Some mappers use "crossing=traffic_signals" > together with "highway=traffic_signals" on the same node als a shortcut for > "lane traffic signal" and "foot traffic signal" because it is rendered as > two traffic signals in JOSM. Or for mapping traffic signals for crossing > cyclists. But I think in every case it is better to use two different > (nearby) nodes for that. > > > > Am I misunderstanding you? You propose using two nearby nodes for > > https://goo.gl/maps/3Sg5ndQ2ZCMBN9uy9 You can just see the yellow > > pedestrian-control box at the left. It controls the crossing (marked > with studs) > > going from left to right across the picture. The same lights that tell > motorists > > to stop for pedestrians also control traffic flow at the T junction > ahead. The > > same set of lights is both a highway traffic signal and a crossing > traffic signal. > > This sort of thing is not uncommon in the UK, with the same set of lights > > being used for both purposes. > > My understanding was that traffic signals=crossing on demand is meant > for things like https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2771622922 ( > https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/2oyFQXVHvy2r-XypCZTECg ) however I > might be wrong? Or https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1416834957 ( > https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/DkuEFqSbOuQPGMtABsFFCA ) including > cyclists? (Esri is good for satellite imagery of these) > > Personally I find highway=traffic_signals + crossing=traffic_signals > on one node sufficient for these crossings. > > Currently the wiki page says "traffic_signals=crossing_on_demand makes > it easy to mark all traffic lights which do only control a crossing", > again I personally find highway=traffic_signals + > crossing=traffic_signals sufficient for that - maybe I'm missing > something. Of course any new tags can be proposed. But I would suggest > adding some real-world photos of crossings that would be tagged with > crossing_on_demand to the wiki page. > > --Jarek > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >
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