On 10/10/2020 00:34, Andrew Harvey wrote:
I believe most of this discussion is moot as the *vast* majority of
railway=stations are mapped as nodes:
I don't think that makes the point moot since nodes are just a quick
first pass way to map a station,
railway=station is one of the earliest tags. Given the age of the
project, I'm pretty sure we're beyond 'quick first pass'. especially in
established countries.
eventually they should all be upgraded to areas.
It appears mappers have decided that's not what's best.
Tagging objects should be based on the understanding of what the
general
consumer of OSM accept it to be, not just a small group of "rail
enthusiasts" from Germany.
OSM should as much as possible try to remain agnostic towards a
specific audience or use, we should strive to both be accurate and
usable for both train drivers and public transport passengers.
See landuse=railway, railway=signal & railway=switch
This is not just a matter for rail enthusiasts from Germany.
Indeed.
>the railway is from the rail network/infrastructure point of
view and
public
transit from the passenger point of view.
This seems to be a common misunderstanding by those advocating PTv2.
I'm not advocating PTv2, for a long time it just seemed like
duplication of tags and a waste but if the ability to separate out the
rail infrastructure from passenger viewpoint can be done with the
tagging schema then that's maybe one advantage.
railway=station & PTv2 are separate schemas. They don't interact. If
there's something missing in one, a tag's meaning can't be amended in
the other. This is the misunderstanding.
No, it's because the public area is what most people consider to be a
'station'. (& most are mapped as nodes)
but use a new tag for rail infrastructure so you can still correctly
map the station for train drivers.
Why would train drivers, looking at OSM, need to have just a couple of
signals enclosed inside a polygon?
DaveF
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