On Wed, 2020-10-21 at 20:10 +1100, Andrew Harvey wrote: > On Wed, 21 Oct 2020 at 19:32, stevea <stevea...@softworkers.com> > wrote: > > In California, a common (not quite frequent, certainly not always) > > arrangement at malls, supermarkets and other places with parking > > lots (large and small) is a sign that reads "you can park here for > > three hours, but after that we have the right to tow your car > > away." (Sometimes punctuated with 'video surveillance active' to > > make the point fairly direct and that "they mean business"). In my > > experience of driving-and-parking for many decades, I personally > > have never gotten towed (the few times I've gone over a time > > limit), I've never heard of anybody (that I personally know) > > getting towed, but I have seen the extremely infrequent tow truck > > towing a car that has likely been there a while — perhaps it was > > abandoned, used for illegal purposes or was otherwise a public > > nuisance. > > > > > > > > So, while that "moderately serious consequence" of getting towed is > > possible, it's rare. And, while this is not a "fee," it certainly > > turns into a fairly large one once the bottom-line-costs, tow truck > > driver and storage charges (per day, usually) are added together > > and paid to get one's car back from the impound lot. > > > > > > > > If you are writing a proposal, this is a reality in certain parts > > of the world the proposal should consider, if it wants to convey > > the full situation (on Earth, in cars, with humans, on parking > > lots). In short, what appears to be "simply" a fee can be fairly > > full-throated when it comes to describing the entire semantic > > richness of the situation. > > > > > > > > A tag like maxstay is a good beginning. An additional tag of > > something like towing_penalty=yes|no is a start down this road. > > I'd just use the regular maxstay tag, I think most places if you > overstay they can tow you. > > `fee:conditional = no @ maxstay < 3h` says you're allowed by the > rules of the car park to park longer if you like, but you need to pay > a fee to do so. This is different to the rules saying you're limited > to 3hr and then issuing a fine or penalty for overstaying
This rule is quite common at Motorway Service Areas, you can park for free for a couple of hours but if you wish to stay longer you need to pay or have your vehicle authorised (hotel guests for example). Phil (trigpoint)
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