On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 4:09 PM Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote:
> Mapper in Poland run into a tricky case and asked for help. > > I am forwarding this a bit weird case. > > Photo is at > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Krak%C3%B3w_Brodzi%C5%84skiego_(5).jpg > and depicts > > - contraflow bicycle lane > - bicycle-only left turn lane (signed left turn) > - general purpose lane (unsigned turn) > > How this should be tagged? > > Following is my idea but... > > highway, name, lit=yes, surface=asphalt etc > oneway=yes > oneway:biycle=no > lanes=1 (as bicycle lanes are not counted) > vehicle:lanes:forward=no|yes > bicycle:lanes:forward=designated|yes > turn:bicycle:lanes:forward=left| > turn:lanes:forward=| > vehicle:lanes:backward=no > bicycle:lanes:backward=designated > cycleway:left=lane > cycleway:right=???? - there is left turn lane only, so cycleway:right=lane > would be > not entirely correct but there is a left turn lane, cycleway:right would > be worse.... > I've been saying for a while now that it's time we fix the tagging problems with bicycle and motorcycle lanes by *actually including them as lanes*, because it cleanly handles exactly this kind of situation concisely and cleanly. They're still lanes, just a reserved kind of lane like a carpool lane or HOV lane. JOSM already handles this with its lane tagging features beautifully. Any data consumers that can deal with lane access (which, if they're not, this is *already* a bug, because HOV and bus lanes are things, too) will be able to handle it without problems. cycleway=lane lanes=3 lanes:forward=2 lanes:backward=1 access:lanes:forward=no|yes bicycle:lanes:forward=designated|yes turn:lanes:forward=left| access:lanes:backward=no bicycle:lanes:backward=designated Or we can just keep trying to pretend bicycle lanes aren't actually lanes and try to figure out how to fix something while simultaneously keeping it permanently broken because the original lanes proposal only considered private motorists.
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