Hello everyone,

I haven't really explained myself since I cancelled this proposal 7 days ago. 
However, just now this proposal was mentioned on WeeklyOSM, so I just want to 
clarify why I have cancelled this proposal.

>From reading all these comments, it is clear a "crossing=priority" is not a 
>good tag. In many places, pedestrians always have priority at intersections 
>even if there is no crossing. The "crossing=priority", however, assumed that 
>the crossing is marked (if it gives priority). This is because of my 
>experience in the UK. 

Furthermore, there seems to be much bigger structural problems with the current 
"crossing" tagging scheme. Therefore, a proposal to improve crossing should be 
more detailed and make more improvements.

My proposal was hacked together in about an hour, mainly because I wanted to 
see how to create proposals, but also because I thought this was a simply issue 
with the current tagging that could quickly be fixed. 

I don't have time to create a new, more detailed crossing proposal, but if 
anyone does, here is what should be done:

- A separate tag for priority e.g. "crossing:priority=yes", where yes indicates 
those who are using the crossing have immediate priority over those who are on 
the road.
- Potentially depreciating "crossing=uncontrolled" (but this would require 
"crossing=marked" and "crossing=unmarked" to be crystal clear.
- Making it clear what "crossing=marked" means. For example, does there need to 
be marking on the road? Or is tactile paving on the sidewalk considered 
"marked"?
- add additional tags to describe more of a crossing, for example 
"crossing:belisha_beacon=*", "crossing:kerb_extension", 
"crossing:buffer_marking" etc.
(see: 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Berlin/Verkehrswende/Fu%C3%9Fwege#Gehwegvorstreckung
 )
- What should be considered a crossing? If it is unmarked, is it a crossing at 
all? (Should all intersections be tagged as "unmarked crossings"? Are places 
with traffic islands (no kerbs) where people frequently cross considered as 
crossings even though they have no marking & no kerbs?)

All of these things (AND MORE) need to be considered properly when creating a 
new crossing proposal. 

If anyone has the time to do something like this, that would be great.

Thanks,
IpswichMapper
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13 Dec 2020, 19:25 by tagging@openstreetmap.org:

> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/crossing%3Dpriority 
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/crossing%3Dpriority#Tagging>
>
> Here is my first proposal for a tag to describe pedestrian crossings where 
> the pedestrian has right of way over all vehicles on the road from the moment 
> they have indicated their intent to cross. I created this because 
> "crossing=zebra" or "crossing=marked" aren't clear enough. Please read the 
> proposal for more details.
>
> Thanks,
> IpswichMapper
>

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