Hello Janko!
Am 19.09.22 um 12:36 schrieb Janko Mihelić:
A user in my city (Zagreb) started translating street names into
English, and I don't know what to do about it. An example of translation
is Butcher Street for Mesnička ulica, or Stone Street for Kamenita
ulica. I found a few of these in Berlin, for example,Straße der
Erinnerung translatedRoad of Remembrance. These are valid translations,
but it isn't helpful for a map. If an english user of our map saw "Road
of Remembrance", she won't be able to find that street sign, or explain
to a taxi driver where she wants to go.
I totally agree. The thing has one or more proper official name/s, and
that name/s should be used.
I think I've seen someone talk against such translations, but I can't
find a wiki page that talks about it. I can create one if there is
consensus that this is wrong tagging. Or maybe just add a few sentences
about it on the name=* wiki page.
I find
* https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:name
* https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Names#Localization
From the later one:
"On the other hand, do not tag names that do not exist."
If a thing has multiple proper official names, we have ways to indicate
them. A literal translation is not an offical name.
Many places in Croation may have Italian, German, Hungarian, Serbian
etc. name that may differ substantially from the Croation name. In this
case it's just a different name, not a translation. And for Croatia, it
was decided to use Croation names as "name":
* https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Multilingual_names#Croatia
Finally, when the discussion has settled and you feel it came to a clear
conclusion, feel free to extend the wiki in the right place, and
reference this discussion. For backwards reference you can add a short
note here on the list.
The problem is, he is doing valid work, so it feels wrong to just delete
it. Another way to deal with this is to create a new tag,
name:literal_translation:en=* or just literal_translation:en=*.
Well meant, but not useful.
I guess one place to put is is the 'description:<lang>', with a remark, like
'description:en=Translated "Butcher Street"'
Another question, what is the right name:en=* in these cases, or is
there none? Erinnerung Road?
None.
BR Patrick/trapicki
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