On 17/10/23 23:22, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 4:51 AM Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:
On 17/10/23 04:17, Paul Johnson wrote:
Presently, it's common for route relations to have names that
violate "name is only the name" and "name is not ref" and "name
is not description" rules for name=* tags.
I don't find it common in 'my area' of mapping. One or two
examples would demonstrate the situation?
In any case:
The name tag is used on may things for example; buildings, parks,
schools, highways ...
The use of the name tag as 'name only' applies where ever the name
tag is used. This is similar for other tags such as elevation,
width, colour etc. No matter what feature they are used on the
tags carry the same characteristics and restrictions. It is not
necessary to repeat these characteristics and restrictions for
every main feature.
Routes have names, too! For example, here's the relation for OK 51,
named for the name of the route.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/3108562
Meanwhile, I 40 in Arkansas has a good example of a name that is
actually a ref and a description, not a name.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/6843700
Finally, OK 19 is an example of a properly described no-name route.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7479405
Ok. I still don't see a necessity of repeating the name tag information
inside the relation tag... Will you also repeat the ref tag information,
the description tag information? How about the surface tag, maxspeed tag
etc etc..
In some cases where I have come across it I have simply stated 'The name
tag is for the name only. See
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Names#Name_is_the_name_only' and I
follow it up by making the correction/s. Don't think I have ever had an
argument about it.
The https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/331438 use of the name tag
goes back 14 years ago ... to a mapper who was only just starting out..
The ref tag came along some 3 years later... You may find similar
historical sources for the use of the name tag...
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