On 3/8/25 13:35, Volker Schmidt wrote:
I don't think access=yes is the same as access=public.
The key 'access' is too generic. Does access=yes refer to the means of
transport that I can use to enter the library? For example it could
mean that I can enter on wheelchair or bicycle. Does not sound right
to me.
My take:
Where the access key is used on a transport object such as a highway, a
railway then it refers to the mode of transport. Where it is used on an
object that is not a transport object such as a toilet then it refers to
the human access to the object. The OSM wiki is not clear no the topic
being biased to transportation needs.
If there is a need to specify the mode of transportation to an non
transport object then a transport object can be connected to the non
transport object. Example a footpath going the entry door of a library
could have access=yes, bicycle=dismount while the library could have
access=yes, bicycle=no ... hopefully there is a bicycle parking node
nearby. Wheelchairs use wheelchair=yes/no for access determination.
On Fri, 1 Aug 2025, 00:59 Andrew Welch via Tagging,
<[email protected]> wrote:
Pretty sure conditional can be used for anything, it just won't be
machine readable if it's not something like opening_hours formatting.
You could do fee=yes and conditional:fee = no @ "members"
I'm sure someone could propose or ATYL something better, but it still
would work to at least have that information included.
On 31/07/2025 8:02 pm, Warin wrote:
> On 31/7/25 18:31, Anne- Karoline Distel via Tagging wrote:
>
>> Certain clubs or associations might have a library only
accessible to
>> members or only free for members and general public has to pay
a fee.
>>
>> --
>
> access=members
>
> access:public=fee ??? I was thinking of conditional but that
looks like
> it is only for some time limits.
>
> On 31/07/2025, 08:49 Warin <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 31/7/25 12:21, Andrew Heare wrote:
>> I am proposing a new tagging system to indicate the type of
user that
>> may utilize a library's services.
>>
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal:Library_Types
>>
>
> More thoughts...
>
> Using access=public is discouraged, use access=yes
>
> No real difference between school, universities and college .. the
> 'users' are students.
>
> Looks to me like the access key can be used in all of the suggested
> library:users proposal.
>
> For schools, universities and colleges use
>
> Access=students, access=staff;students or access=students;employees
>
> For public libraries use access=yes
>
> For private libraries use access=private
>
> For government and other commercial firms internal libraries use
> access=employees
>
> In all cases the operator and website keys can be used for more
detail
> ..
>
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