I heard an interesting story about the planning of early Sydney roads (I
hope it wasn't on this list).
The claim was that the roads were planned by someone sitting in London and
drawing a straight
line between two points . . . .

cheers

On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 1:11 PM, <b.schulz...@scu.edu.au> wrote:

> The UBD printed maps have a marking called "untrafficable road" (or
> something to that effect). Basically it's a designation for roads which are
> gazetted but don't exist.
>
> eg: Stanley Road, Epping, NSW:
>
> OSM: http://osm.org/go/u...@fn8li-
> Whereis: http://www.whereis.com/nsw/epping/stanley-rd?id=93E9799C00893A
>
> There's a creek which runs through there, along with a ~10m high cliff face
> on the Northern side. I used to live in Knox Ave and spent much of my
> childhood exploring the bush around there.
>
> Brent
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John Smith <delta_foxt...@yahoo.com>
> Date: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 12:10 pm
> Subject: Re: [talk-au] Marking non-existent roads...
> To: Ben Kelley <ben.kel...@gmail.com>
> Cc: talk-au@openstreetmap.org
>
> >
> > --- On Tue, 11/8/09, Ben Kelley <ben.kel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > Maybe something on a wiki page, but how do you know to look
> > > there?
> >
> > There is a lot of roads marked on g'maps and others that just
> > don't exist, you'd get lost in the noise.
> >
> > > doesn't actually exist. This system is not much use to
> > > someone else trying to survey the same area though.
> >
> > Yup, exactly, I more or less know what is there when I was
> > surveying it with a GPS, but that doesn't help the next person,
> > for roads that partially exist I put a barrier in, but that
> > doesn't help for complete roads that don't exist.
> >
> > > Another case would be for streets that no longer exist, but
> > > once existed, and where there are GPS traces in OSM for the
> > > street that used to exist. (There are a couple in Tamworth
> > > like this.) I don't have a good solution for these.
> >
> > Something that came to mind reading your reply was
> > railway=abandoned, it doesn't render but it's still marked,
> > there's no way we'd get agreement upon this from the main list
> > they're still going in circles over trees and paths.
> >
> > Something like highway=abandoned or highway=phantom, I'm not
> > advocating to copy from other maps, but if you have mapped out
> > streets near by it should be possible to approximate rough
> > location in OSM database.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> >
> >
> >
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