Richard, I most certainly don't disagree with with you but maybe the
picture is a little incomplete ?

On Thu, 2012-12-20 at 11:52 -0500, Richard Weait wrote:

> ... if we wish to suggest a change then suggesting such a change along
> with a patch to execute it stands a much better chance of adoption.  

https://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/1447  lodged four years ago,
several suggestions and examples of how it can be done. Its about
rendering unsealed roads differently from the default sealed. Its a
safety issue and very important in Australia. No progress.

> Also, and this is important, making a new style is really fun. 

Fun, but as I said, not easy. I have been doing so, trying to
demonstrate how to deal with unsealed and 4x4 roads. My time is limited
and I've made little progress. I of all people know how hard it is to
get developers and sys admins to doc what they have done !
>         
 
>  ... there is a brand new shiny tile cache server in Brisbane. 
http://blog.osmfoundation.org/2012/10/04/australia-server/

I believe thats a cache server, not a tile server in its own right. So
it caches and delivers what already exists on (eg) osm.org. If it could
deliver an Aussie view of Australia, that would be great ! That might
also be a good way to trial localized styles. That would be good!

> My point is not to discourage you ....

No, of course not, like I said, we agree on most. I certainly would not
want to send any sort of message that I am unhappy with OSM. Far from
it! 

David

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