Its an interesting one - unlike suburbs, LGAs don't really have a physical
presence or much you can survey; even though they have a spatial
relationship/are often defined by physical features.
For being surveyable... maybe you get a 'welcome to foo shire' sign or two.

I would say that* if an LGA is suitable to be added*, Unincorporated Areas
and other weird things like http://www.ncl.net.au/ (A town owned by a
corporation that provides services *like* an LGA, but isn't legally an LGA)
should be suitable too.


In terms of actually using the data; I find that relying on the ABS data
and treating that as a separate data set is often quite useful. I'd be
inclined to not worry too much about adding them in; particularly when they
do fun things like merge frequently - maintenance pain in the behind and a
half!



On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 8:45 AM, cleary <o...@97k.com> wrote:

>
> I have been adding administrative boundaries in NSW and SA using the
> Government data for which OSM has been given explicit permission. I am
> currently working on the "Pastoral Unincorporated Area" in SA and
> another mapper commented that it was inappropriate. I responded but my
> response appears not to have satisfied the other mapper.  I then found
> that the same mapper had deleted the "Unincorporated Area of New South
> Wales" because it was not administered by a council.
>
> Both of these "unincorporated" areas are defined and designated in the
> respective government datasets, that is (1) South Australian Government
> Data - Local Government Areas and (2) LPI NSW Administrative Boundaries
> - Local Government.
>
> The issue for the other mapper appears to be the acceptability of the
> form of governance of these areas. While the majority of local
> government areas are administered by councils, this model works less
> well in areas which are sparsely populated. The Pastoral Unincorporated
> Area in South Australia is administered by a designated authority, the
> Outback Communities Authority, which is not a council either in name or
> in the usual sense. I am aware of three other designated local
> government areas in South Australia that do not have councils - two are
> administered by the indigenous residents although they appear to have
> some form of executive committee to make routine decisions. One
> designated local government area does not appear to have a council and I
> have not ascertained the form of governance.  In the Unincorporated Area
> of New South Wales, responsibilities are dispersed and do not rest with
> any one body, for example roads are managed by the Roads and Maritime
> Services (state authority) and there are local advisory committees in
> some isolated communities.
>
> The key issue is whether the form of governance in an area should
> determine whether or not areas should be mapped in OSM. It seems to me
> to be akin to removing Northern Territory and ACT on the basis that they
> have different forms of governance and are not proper states!
>
> The comments on the Pastoral Unincorporated Area can be viewed at
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/44528330#map=12/-34.3720/140.4687
> The relation for the Pastoral Unincorporated Area is at
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/6804541
> The deleted relation for Unincorporated Area of New South Wales is at
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5892272 and refers to Changeset
> #44531564
>
> Do other members of the OSM community have a view on whether the form of
> governance should determine what areas are shown on the map and
> particularly whether local government areas should be included if they
> are not administered by councils.
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Talk-au mailing list
> Talk-au@openstreetmap.org
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
>
_______________________________________________
Talk-au mailing list
Talk-au@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Reply via email to