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Thanks Graeme On Mon, 31 Jan 2022 at 13:28, Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefi...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Thanks > > Graeme > > > On Mon, 31 Jan 2022 at 13:20, Andrew Harvey <andrew.harv...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> >> 2. Does the AWTGS system apply more to routes than way segments? For >> example a longer route loop might have a higher grade than a shorter loop >> even if they overlap for parts. Would you then only apply AWTGS on a >> route=hiking relation, or do you also tag on each way but only set the >> higher grade to the parts of the walk which go beyond the easier shorter >> sections (based on the example)? >> > > Threads have crossed :-(, but as per their instructions that I mentioned > in the other post, the track overall is tagged to the highest > classification, so per the example they give: > > Example: Wineglass Bay, Tasmania > The technical assessment of the Wineglass Bay Lookout Walk is then > translated into plain English. NOTE: Time > is the land manager’s best estimate of the amount of time a person of > average fitness, walking in good > conditions, will take to complete the walk. Time does not describe > difficulty. Because this is a Grade 3 walk > a high/low estimate is not required > > > Grade 1 Grade 2 Grade 3 Grade 4 Grade 5 > Symbol > Distance Distance to Distance to Distance to Distance to Distance to > complete walk > is 2.4km. > complete walk. > xx km > complete walk. > xx km > complete walk. > xx km > complete walk. > xx km > Gradient Flat. Gentle hills. Short steep hills. Very steep. Very steep > and difficult. > Quality > of path > Well formed > track. > Formed track. Formed track, > some obstacles. > Rough track, > many obstacles. > Rough unformed > track. > Quality of > markings > Clearly sign > posted. > Clearly sign > posted. > Sign posted. Limited signage. No directional > signage. > Experience > Required > No experience > required. > No experience > required. > Some > bushwalking > experience > recommended. > Experienced > Bushwalkers. > Very experienced > bushwalkers. > Time High and low > estimate of > time needed to > complete track > (eg 1.5-2hrs). > High and low > estimate of > time needed to > complete track > (eg 1.5-2hrs). > Time needed to > complete track > (hours/days) > 1.5hrs. > Time needed to > complete track > (hours/days). > Time needed to > complete track > (hours/days). > Steps No steps. Occasional steps. Many steps. N > > > >> The main reason I don't like the AWTGS is because it conflates >> independent measures like surface, gradient, distance, navigational >> difficulty, remoteness/preparedness. I think the ideally tagging system >> would tag these attributes independently and then you could automatically >> calculate an overall grade based on the highest value. >> >> On Fri, 28 Jan 2022 at 16:45, <ianst...@iinet.net.au> wrote: >> >>> I think we should be considering the Australian Walking Track Grading >>> System. It seems to have been defined by the Victorians (Forest Fire >>> Management - >>> https://www.ffm.vic.gov.au/recreational-activities/walking-and-camping/australian-walking-track-grading-system). >>> The AWTGS defines 5 track grades. >>> >>> >>> >>> It appears to have been adopted by National Parks here in WA, NT, SA, >>> QLD and NSW, and Bush Walking Australia. >>> >>> >>> >>> I have tagged a few tracks (where there were officially signed with a >>> “Class”) as “awtgs=” (however someone in Germany has since deleted those >>> tags without reference to me!) >>> >>> >>> >>> Australian Standard AS 2156.1-2001 is titled “Walking Tracks, Part 1: >>> Classification and signage”. However, I don’t have a subscription to read >>> the contents of this standard to see how it compares with the AWTGS. Other >>> documentation I have seen refers to the AS scheme as having 6 levels >>> >>> >>> >>> Ian >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Talk-au mailing list >>> Talk-au@openstreetmap.org >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk-au mailing list >> Talk-au@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au >> >
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