If there is a general park notice "stay on marked tracks only" combined with the "End of track" I would say that's sufficient to imply you can't continue further and therefore access=no.
Without the general park notice but simply "End of track", to me that just means it's the end of foot=designated, and further tracks would be foot=yes and informal=yes, without any access=no. On Thu, 14 Dec 2023 at 22:55, Mark Pulley <mrpul...@iinet.net.au> wrote: > On my last holiday I took a detour to re-check the Apsley Gorge track. > > The asphalt path ends at a lookout > https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/324186826 > > The ‘controversial’ path is still present south of here - I followed it > some of the way (about 350m), but didn’t follow it all the way to the end. > > There is a sign just south of the lookout - Google Maps street view shows > the sign (the small yellow object near the southern end of the safety rail!) > https://maps.app.goo.gl/9mDecm2GKpXxM48k6 > > On the left side of the sign, there’s a warning icon (exclamation mark), > then “No safety rail”, another warning icon (man falling off edge of > crumbling cliff), then “Unstable edges” > > On the right side of the sign is the text “End of track, no safety rail > beyond this point” > > The sign is there to discourage walkers venturing further south, but it’s > not technically a “do not enter” sign. > > Does that help with what to do with this particular example? > > Mark P. > > > On Tue, 3 Oct 2023 at 23:33, Mark Pulley <mrpul...@iinet.net.au> wrote: > >> A brief summary of the options for this type of situation (not just this >> particular edit, but similar edits in the past and probably future): >> >> 1. Revert the change sets (in the absence of more information) >> 2. Partial revert, with a change in tags >> 3. Leave the deletion as it is. >> >> For this particular example, the results would be: >> 1. Full revert - way will be marked informal=yes, but without access tags >> 2. Partial revert - could add access=no, or >> alternatively abandoned:highway=* or disused:highway=* >> 3. No reversion >> > > I would opt for 2, leave the way in place, but with access=no, a lifecycle > prefix on the highway tag like abandoned:highway=* > or rehabilitated:highway=*. > > If there is signage that says closed for rehabilitation, we should > capture the closure reason somewhere, so OSM data consumers can present > that reason for the closure to users, whether that be > via rehabilitated:highway=* or something like, access:reason=rehabilitation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au >
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