Hi All,

I just wanted to let you know that I've completed the import of buildings
in wards 67, 68, and 69.  You can see it at
http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/23.7158/90.4053

There are some areas where I've left some minor roads overlapping with
buildings during the import, and I apologize for this.  Over the next two
months we'll have teams of surveyors going over the area, correcting these
mistakes, and mapping in greater detail.

Cheers,
Jeff


On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 7:03 PM, Jeff Haack <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hey guys,
>
> The data is of quite good quality.  I'll have to re-look at the
> methodology they used, but it must have involved digitizing high-res
> imagery and field surveys.  And it lines up pretty well with the Bing
> imagery - I think this data is 4-5 years old if I remember correctly.  So
> although it's a dense area I think it will be a good clean dataset to
> import, and if there are any problems they should be corrected during the
> field surveys.  And indeed BUET is going to be integrally involved in all
> of this.
>
> Emilie,
> It looks like there aren't more than a couple dozen buildings in this
> first area, and I'm planning to manually conflate and import the data
> anyway, however this might be useful later on if there are further imports.
>
> Cheers,
> Jeff
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Emilie Laffray 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Hello Larry,
>>
>> I have written for the French import of landuse some SQL queries that can
>> be adapted to check overlap with existing building and to choose which one
>> to import or not. It means that you have to add an extra steps but it would
>> help quite a bit that way not to have overlaps.
>> I would be happy to explain how to do this.
>>
>> Cordially
>>
>>
>> On 12 August 2013 12:04, Larry O'Neill <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Jorieke,
>>>
>>> Good to hear from you again!
>>> The CEGIS data looks like it's quite detailed. Comparing some buildings
>>> that I surveyed and put on the map
>>>  to what the CEGIS has, they compare quite well.
>>> There will be conflicts and overlap for sure, I'd imagine one of the
>>> challenges will be buildings and road data overlapping.
>>> I would agree that a less dense area might be easier to start with, but
>>> it's up to Jeff if he's the one who'll be doing the legwork on it.
>>>
>>> Jeff, we haven't really done much about boundary data schemas yet. In
>>> terms of borders, we did have some fun at some point with the enclaves and
>>> exclaves on the northern border. The worlds only counter-counter-enclave is
>>> there. =0) A proper schema for the various divisions and districts would be
>>> a good idea. I think currently the only data we have for these boundaries
>>> are the zilas in the Chittagong division.
>>>
>>> With regard to the RHD, I recall there was someone either on this list
>>> or the facebook group that had a contact there. After a little digging in
>>> facebook, it appears it was Rafid Wahid Yaad that was digging about with
>>> that - it could be a good lead to follow.
>>>
>>> In terms of other stuff, I'm only getting back into osm related things
>>> after about 7 months travelling.
>>> I've noticed the Bing imagery for Bangladesh was significantly updated.
>>> I had done loads of road tracing from it previously, and it looks like we
>>> now have a significant amount more of the country covered since the last
>>> update =0)
>>> I'll be re-opening the irc channel, going back through all the emails
>>> and facebook postings from the last while, and really looking forward to
>>> doing more stuff with you guys again!
>>>
>>> Larry
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Jorieke Vyncke <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi everybody,
>>>>
>>>> Indeed great to see these actions in Bangladesh! The country has big
>>>> potentials in the mapping!
>>>>
>>>> About the import, I checked the wiki and everything seems really okay!
>>>> I only have one big question about the data. I absolutely don't know
>>>> the CEGIS, so I have no idea about the quality of their data.
>>>> Only one thing I know is the area you propose to import is a really
>>>> densely built area. If you would propose to import Gulshan of Dhanmundi, I
>>>> would have said go on, but an import of this area it is quite difficult I
>>>> think.
>>>> So I think it is really important to link the import with surveys on
>>>> the field! I also know the mappers of BUET (with sir Ferdous, Rifat and
>>>> Shubrami) already did some surveys in Old Dhaka. I don't know which area
>>>> exactly, but I would say take it in account when you are doing the import.
>>>>
>>>> About the permission, I can sent you a letter just to sign, we
>>>> developed to got data in Cameroon and the Central African Republic last
>>>> year. I don't know anything about how you are trying to get the permission,
>>>> but in Cameroon and the Central African Republic we learned that the best
>>>> strategy is often: just give them a prepared document so they just have to
>>>> sign. It will go a lot faster.
>>>>
>>>> Good luck with the import, and I will check it too! :-)
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>
>>>> Jorieke
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2013/8/12 Jeff Haack <[email protected]>
>>>>
>>>>> There are so many data sets kicking around and yes if the roads and
>>>>> highway department haven't been brought in already I'm sure they will be.
>>>>>  This is still in a very nascent phase acquiring data permissions from
>>>>> anybody can take a lot of legwork, so I'll keep this in mind as I get to
>>>>> know the situation a bit better.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm glad to see this road classification schema.  I wonder if there
>>>>> has ever been a discussion of an admin level schema? (see
>>>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dadministrative)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Larry O'Neill 
>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Jeff,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Aah, I'd almost forgotten that WB were involved. Exciting stuff.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We had been talking about the data that the Roads and Highways
>>>>>> Department have available on their site.
>>>>>> The idea was to ask for permission to use the road reference
>>>>>> information that's there.
>>>>>> Most of the national roads have been traced from Bing imagery, but
>>>>>> classification still needs to be figured out.
>>>>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Bangladesh#Roads
>>>>>> If The World Bank were able to talk to the Ministry of Water
>>>>>> Resources to get building info, they might be able and/or willing to help
>>>>>> with this?
>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> Larry
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Jeff Haack <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Larry,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To be honest I'm not sure how CEGIS got involved - I'm not directly
>>>>>>> in touch.  The World Bank has been piecing together this project to 
>>>>>>> begin
>>>>>>> mapping in these wards at the end of the month, and there are a few
>>>>>>> footprint data sets floating around.  We're still awaiting final written
>>>>>>> permission to import the data, but hope to have it soon.  I'll be 
>>>>>>> coming to
>>>>>>> Dhaka the last couple weeks of August to help do OSM training and get 
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> initiative off the ground, so I expect you'll be able to see the data
>>>>>>> filling into OSM over the next couple months and hopefully beyond.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Larry O'Neill <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Guys,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Really great to hear about this, how did you make contact with the
>>>>>>>> CEGIS Jeff?
>>>>>>>> Will be following this closely on Friday, assuming we get the final
>>>>>>>> word to go ahead.
>>>>>>>> Eunus, OSM data can be used for whatever research you need it for,
>>>>>>>> so this will be available once its imported.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Larry
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 6:42 AM, Mohammed Eunus Ali <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Jeff,
>>>>>>>>> I am really happy and delighted to see this great initiative. I am
>>>>>>>>> currently doing some research on query processing 3D maps. I think 
>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>> data will be really helpful for my research (I assume data are open 
>>>>>>>>> for all
>>>>>>>>> /researchers!).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>> Eunus
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 6:00 PM, <
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>>>>>>>>>> Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 20:30:40 +0530
>>>>>>>>>> From: Jeff Haack <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Talk-bd] Old Dhaka Building Import
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>>>>>>>>>> Hello OpenStreetMap Bangladesh,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm preparing a data import for the old city in Dhaka of
>>>>>>>>>> buildings, in
>>>>>>>>>> support of the Open Cities Project<
>>>>>>>>>> http://opencitiesproject.com/cities/dhaka/>,
>>>>>>>>>> which will involve data collection of buildings using
>>>>>>>>>> OpenStreetMap.  The
>>>>>>>>>> import will be of both building structures and ward boundaries,
>>>>>>>>>> specifically within wards 67, 68, and 69 and possibly extending
>>>>>>>>>> to wards
>>>>>>>>>> 63, 64, and 66.  You can see an outline of the import plan at
>>>>>>>>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Dhaka_Building_Import.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to open a discussion up about this both to inform you
>>>>>>>>>> and also in
>>>>>>>>>> case their are any questions or concerns we can discuss them in
>>>>>>>>>> advance.
>>>>>>>>>>  I'm hoping to import the data by the end of the week, before
>>>>>>>>>> August 16th.
>>>>>>>>>>  If you are interested please take a look at the plan I've
>>>>>>>>>> written on the
>>>>>>>>>> wiki page and post any items for discussion here on the list.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>> Jeff
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>>>>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 00:38:25 +0600
>>>>>>>>>> From: Syed Ishtiaque Ahmed <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> To: Jeff Haack <[email protected]>, "Md. Rashidujjaman Rifat"
>>>>>>>>>>         <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> Cc: talk-bd <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Talk-bd] Old Dhaka Building Import
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Great initiative, Jeff!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Mapping old Dhaka is very important for many reasons. We are
>>>>>>>>>> really excited
>>>>>>>>>> to hear more about it as the project progresses.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ishtiaque
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Jeff Haack <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > Hello OpenStreetMap Bangladesh,
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > I'm preparing a data import for the old city in Dhaka of
>>>>>>>>>> buildings, in
>>>>>>>>>> > support of the Open Cities Project<
>>>>>>>>>> http://opencitiesproject.com/cities/dhaka/>,
>>>>>>>>>> > which will involve data collection of buildings using
>>>>>>>>>> OpenStreetMap.  The
>>>>>>>>>> > import will be of both building structures and ward boundaries,
>>>>>>>>>> > specifically within wards 67, 68, and 69 and possibly extending
>>>>>>>>>> to wards
>>>>>>>>>> > 63, 64, and 66.  You can see an outline of the import plan at
>>>>>>>>>> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Dhaka_Building_Import.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > I'd like to open a discussion up about this both to inform you
>>>>>>>>>> and also in
>>>>>>>>>> > case their are any questions or concerns we can discuss them in
>>>>>>>>>> advance.
>>>>>>>>>> >  I'm hoping to import the data by the end of the week, before
>>>>>>>>>> August 16th.
>>>>>>>>>> >  If you are interested please take a look at the plan I've
>>>>>>>>>> written on the
>>>>>>>>>> > wiki page and post any items for discussion here on the list.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > Best,
>>>>>>>>>> > Jeff
>>>>>>>>>> >
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>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Syed Ishtiaque Ahmed
>>>>>>>>>> PhD Student (Fulbright S&T Fellow)
>>>>>>>>>> Department of Information Science
>>>>>>>>>> Cornell University, Ithaca, NY 14850, US.
>>>>>>>>>> web: https://sites.google.com/site/siakallol/
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Mohammed Eunus Ali, Ph.D.
>>>>>>>>> Associate Professor
>>>>>>>>> Department of Computer Science and Engineering (CSE)
>>>>>>>>> Bangladesh University of Engineering and Technology (BUET)
>>>>>>>>> Dhaka-1000, Bangladesh
>>>>>>>>> Email: [email protected]
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