On 2012-12-15 13:03, Jo wrote :
(And thanks for writing that letter, your French is quite good!)
Hi EeBie,
That's great news! Unfortunately we can't use their map or the GPX
files from their web site without their explicit permission. I'll try
to whip up a message in French to ask for that permission, but usually
the answer to such requests is nyet. Meaning we'll have to go and
survey it ourselves or with help of gpx files recorded by people
who'll go out and ride them. The advantage of doing it ourselves is
that it's possible to make a lot more pictures and notes and improve
the rest of the data around there at the same time.
The copyright information must be written inside the metadata, obtained
with a WMS Getcapabilities
<http://schemas.opengis.net/wms/1.1.1/capabilities_1_1_1.xml> request to
or extracted from the GPX XML file according the GPX schema (1.1)
<http://www.topografix.com/gpx/1/1/gpx.xsd>. (just like finding the ©
written in a book or on a record dispenses everybody to inquire)
But does a © on a map forbid photocopying the map or learning the route
by heart and map it?
You can also consider listing *Les itinéraires touristiques balisés*
<http://cgt.tourismewallonie.be/default.aspx?pg=9e9d7134-fa22-4015-b8d7-768eef2544f2>
(legally official site) for Wallonie.
Several communes consider that the routes are both cycling and biking.
I have mapped routes in the commune Sprimont and Theux
<http://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/en/?zoom=13&lat=50.51982&lon=5.71373> with
the official IDs. SP3 and most of TE is missing. I e-mailed both adms
but I've got no reply. Someone made something similar in Tillf
<http://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/en/?zoom=14&lat=50.56067&lon=5.58773>, but
I don't see any official IDs for Tilff.
I would have liked to add node numbers, but I could not find on the
Belgian OSM wiki how they're assigned. How van I do that?
I made a cycle route here
<http://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/en/?zoom=14&lat=50.5256&lon=5.7969>.
Completely unofficial and off the top of my head. I chose it because
it's almost flat in a very hilly region, but I do not know how to show
that on the map. How could I?
I'd love to draw more if someone around got interested or ever replied
to my e-mails.
Sprimont do not seem to officially list anything bike specific.
Should I be inventive and made unofficial routes?
I'm almost sure some kids nearby would help me.
We should request OSM to add Waymart map layers
<http://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/en/?zoom=13&lat=50.51982&lon=5.71373>
to their site, they're simply great.
Could we suggest firms that use GoogleMaps to use OpenStreetMap instead
and to help them adding to OSM what they need?
<http://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/en/?zoom=14&lat=50.5256&lon=5.7969>Please
do not change what I mapped, but suggest anything you want.
Cordialement,
André.
I hope you don't mind I'm going to change your nodes a bit.
For one the nodes don't need network=rcn or bicycle=yes. It's enough
if they have an rcn_ref tag. This is to avoid having to put
network=rcn;rwn for nodes that are common between walking and cycling
networks.
Cheers,
Jo
Op 15 december 2012 01:43 schreef EeBie <ebe...@gmail.com
<mailto:ebe...@gmail.com>> het volgende:
Jo,
You can add a new cycle network to the list.
Since this year there is a cycle node network in Namur and
Luxembourg: Famenne-à-Vélo.
See http://www.famenne-a-velo.be/
<http://www.famenne-a-velo.be/>They speak about 350 km in total.
I encountered a few node signs while hiking in the region and
tagged 3 of them and one route (154-155) in the neighborhood of
Wavreille map
<http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=50.12596&lon=5.24383&zoom=16&layers=M>
.
The website offers the possibility to download GPX files of the
routes. I don’t have any idea if it is permitted to use those to
add the route to OSM.
The application is developed by Geolives. That company writes that
they can also make applications based on OSM. (the website for
Famenne-à-Vélo uses Google maps).
The reference list of Geolives shows also several (walking) routes
in Wallonie.
Erik
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