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On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Jo <winfi...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm not entirely convinced those Flemish open data licenses would really > help us a lot either. > > Do they need a disclaimer shown on each and every rendering of the data? > > Jo > > > 2013/5/30 Ben Abelshausen <ben.abelshau...@gmail.com> > >> Hi Again, >> >> Friday last week someone from AGIV called me to have a talk about the >> licence for CRAB and they will not change theirs for now. I also explained >> why we could not, similar to a commercial map provider, just add a >> disclaimer to our data. That is actually their only demand. >> >> *The orthofoto's is no problem, that has been confirmed again.* >> >> Anyway there was a bit of dissapointment on both sides about this. I also >> asked about the new Flemish open data licenses but they had no plans in >> that direction. There was even talk about closing the data again in 2015 >> but that descision was still to be made... >> >> Met vriendelijke groeten, >> Best regards, >> >> Ben Abelshausen >> ben.abelshau...@gmail.com >> http://twitter.com/xivk >> >> On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Ben Abelshausen < >> ben.abelshau...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> OK I will immediately reply with this to them. Curious about the >>> response. >>> >>> Thanks again to open-data-Pieter! :-) >>> >>> Met vriendelijke groeten, >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Ben Abelshausen >>> ben.abelshau...@gmail.com >>> http://twitter.com/xivk >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Pieter Colpaert < >>> pieter.colpa...@okfn.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Ben, >>>> >>>> there is a clear deadline! The 14th of June they are doing the Flemish >>>> Open Data day on which they have to show their work. That day is going to >>>> advertise the Flemish open data licenses as well. We just need to convince >>>> AGIV to start using the right ones: >>>> >>>> http://okfn.be/2013/05/04/**flemish-open-data-licenses/<http://okfn.be/2013/05/04/flemish-open-data-licenses/> >>>> >>>> Kind regards, >>>> >>>> Pieter >>>> >>>> >>>> On 05/17/2013 11:00 AM, Ben Abelshausen wrote: >>>> >>>>> Bad news! >>>>> >>>>> The AGIV licence of the adressing data (CRAB) is NOT ok for reuse for >>>>> OSM. I was in the process of requesting a licence. >>>>> >>>>> The story is: you can get the data but when a third person is reusing >>>>> this they also need to sign a licence. This means that we cannot reuse >>>>> this >>>>> data in the OSM-database. At least not copying it, maybe mapping based on >>>>> it and not copying would be ok... >>>>> >>>>> In my opinion this is not really open data, just free data as in beer! >>>>> I did get a response that they are aware of this limitation and are >>>>> working >>>>> on this but there is no clear deadline. One day we will get this data, >>>>> including reuse, but we are not really there yet. But maybe by then all >>>>> addresses will be mapped already and OSM will be the reference! :-) >>>>> >>>>> I'm very sorry about getting everybody worked-up about finally being >>>>> able to use this data but there was some misunderstanding about what usage >>>>> in OSM meant. In our case mapping or copying the data instead of just >>>>> geocoding on the main OSM-website. >>>>> >>>>> Met vriendelijke groeten, >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> >>>>> Ben Abelshausen >>>>> ben.abelshau...@gmail.com >>>>> <mailto:ben.abelshausen@gmail.**com<ben.abelshau...@gmail.com> >>>>> > >>>>> http://twitter.com/xivk >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ______________________________**_________________ >>>>> Talk-be mailing list >>>>> Talk-be@openstreetmap.org >>>>> http://lists.openstreetmap.**org/listinfo/talk-be<http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ______________________________**_________________ >>>> Talk-be mailing list >>>> Talk-be@openstreetmap.org >>>> http://lists.openstreetmap.**org/listinfo/talk-be<http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk-be mailing list >> Talk-be@openstreetmap.org >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-be mailing list > Talk-be@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > >
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