Will AGIV accept attribution on this page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors in order to use the data under ODbL?
Cheers, Johan 2013/5/30 Ben Abelshausen <ben.abelshau...@gmail.com> > @marc: yes it's the best way to get accurate data anyway! :-) > > I'm not sure about the Flemish open data licenses, Pieter should know. > > Met vriendelijke groeten, > Best regards, > > Ben Abelshausen > ben.abelshau...@gmail.com > http://twitter.com/xivk > > > > On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 11:10 AM, Marc Gemis <marc.ge...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> So I'll keep on walking and surveying housenumbers >> >> m. >> >> >> On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Jo <winfi...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I'm not entirely convinced those Flemish open data licenses would really >>> help us a lot either. >>> >>> Do they need a disclaimer shown on each and every rendering of the data? >>> >>> Jo >>> >>> >>> 2013/5/30 Ben Abelshausen <ben.abelshau...@gmail.com> >>> >>>> Hi Again, >>>> >>>> Friday last week someone from AGIV called me to have a talk about the >>>> licence for CRAB and they will not change theirs for now. I also explained >>>> why we could not, similar to a commercial map provider, just add a >>>> disclaimer to our data. That is actually their only demand. >>>> >>>> *The orthofoto's is no problem, that has been confirmed again.* >>>> >>>> Anyway there was a bit of dissapointment on both sides about this. I >>>> also asked about the new Flemish open data licenses but they had no plans >>>> in that direction. There was even talk about closing the data again in 2015 >>>> but that descision was still to be made... >>>> >>>> Met vriendelijke groeten, >>>> Best regards, >>>> >>>> Ben Abelshausen >>>> ben.abelshau...@gmail.com >>>> http://twitter.com/xivk >>>> >>>> On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Ben Abelshausen < >>>> ben.abelshau...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> OK I will immediately reply with this to them. Curious about the >>>>> response. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks again to open-data-Pieter! :-) >>>>> >>>>> Met vriendelijke groeten, >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> >>>>> Ben Abelshausen >>>>> ben.abelshau...@gmail.com >>>>> http://twitter.com/xivk >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Pieter Colpaert < >>>>> pieter.colpa...@okfn.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Ben, >>>>>> >>>>>> there is a clear deadline! The 14th of June they are doing the >>>>>> Flemish Open Data day on which they have to show their work. That day is >>>>>> going to advertise the Flemish open data licenses as well. We just need >>>>>> to >>>>>> convince AGIV to start using the right ones: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://okfn.be/2013/05/04/**flemish-open-data-licenses/<http://okfn.be/2013/05/04/flemish-open-data-licenses/> >>>>>> >>>>>> Kind regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Pieter >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 05/17/2013 11:00 AM, Ben Abelshausen wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Bad news! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The AGIV licence of the adressing data (CRAB) is NOT ok for reuse >>>>>>> for OSM. I was in the process of requesting a licence. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The story is: you can get the data but when a third person is >>>>>>> reusing this they also need to sign a licence. This means that we cannot >>>>>>> reuse this data in the OSM-database. At least not copying it, maybe >>>>>>> mapping >>>>>>> based on it and not copying would be ok... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In my opinion this is not really open data, just free data as in >>>>>>> beer! I did get a response that they are aware of this limitation and >>>>>>> are >>>>>>> working on this but there is no clear deadline. One day we will get this >>>>>>> data, including reuse, but we are not really there yet. But maybe by >>>>>>> then >>>>>>> all addresses will be mapped already and OSM will be the reference! :-) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm very sorry about getting everybody worked-up about finally being >>>>>>> able to use this data but there was some misunderstanding about what >>>>>>> usage >>>>>>> in OSM meant. In our case mapping or copying the data instead of just >>>>>>> geocoding on the main OSM-website. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Met vriendelijke groeten, >>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ben Abelshausen >>>>>>> ben.abelshau...@gmail.com >>>>>>> <mailto:ben.abelshausen@gmail.**com<ben.abelshau...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> http://twitter.com/xivk >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ______________________________**_________________ >>>>>>> Talk-be mailing list >>>>>>> Talk-be@openstreetmap.org >>>>>>> http://lists.openstreetmap.**org/listinfo/talk-be<http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ______________________________**_________________ >>>>>> Talk-be mailing list >>>>>> Talk-be@openstreetmap.org >>>>>> http://lists.openstreetmap.**org/listinfo/talk-be<http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Talk-be mailing list >>>> Talk-be@openstreetmap.org >>>> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Talk-be mailing list >>> Talk-be@openstreetmap.org >>> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk-be mailing list >> Talk-be@openstreetmap.org >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-be mailing list > Talk-be@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > >
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