@marc: yes it's the best way to get accurate data anyway! :-) I'm not sure about the Flemish open data licenses, Pieter should know.
Met vriendelijke groeten, Best regards, Ben Abelshausen ben.abelshau...@gmail.com http://twitter.com/xivk On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 11:10 AM, Marc Gemis <marc.ge...@gmail.com> wrote: > So I'll keep on walking and surveying housenumbers > > m. > > > On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Jo <winfi...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I'm not entirely convinced those Flemish open data licenses would really >> help us a lot either. >> >> Do they need a disclaimer shown on each and every rendering of the data? >> >> Jo >> >> >> 2013/5/30 Ben Abelshausen <ben.abelshau...@gmail.com> >> >>> Hi Again, >>> >>> Friday last week someone from AGIV called me to have a talk about the >>> licence for CRAB and they will not change theirs for now. I also explained >>> why we could not, similar to a commercial map provider, just add a >>> disclaimer to our data. That is actually their only demand. >>> >>> *The orthofoto's is no problem, that has been confirmed again.* >>> >>> Anyway there was a bit of dissapointment on both sides about this. I >>> also asked about the new Flemish open data licenses but they had no plans >>> in that direction. There was even talk about closing the data again in 2015 >>> but that descision was still to be made... >>> >>> Met vriendelijke groeten, >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Ben Abelshausen >>> ben.abelshau...@gmail.com >>> http://twitter.com/xivk >>> >>> On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Ben Abelshausen < >>> ben.abelshau...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> OK I will immediately reply with this to them. Curious about the >>>> response. >>>> >>>> Thanks again to open-data-Pieter! :-) >>>> >>>> Met vriendelijke groeten, >>>> Best regards, >>>> >>>> Ben Abelshausen >>>> ben.abelshau...@gmail.com >>>> http://twitter.com/xivk >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Pieter Colpaert < >>>> pieter.colpa...@okfn.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Ben, >>>>> >>>>> there is a clear deadline! The 14th of June they are doing the Flemish >>>>> Open Data day on which they have to show their work. That day is going to >>>>> advertise the Flemish open data licenses as well. We just need to convince >>>>> AGIV to start using the right ones: >>>>> >>>>> http://okfn.be/2013/05/04/**flemish-open-data-licenses/<http://okfn.be/2013/05/04/flemish-open-data-licenses/> >>>>> >>>>> Kind regards, >>>>> >>>>> Pieter >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 05/17/2013 11:00 AM, Ben Abelshausen wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Bad news! >>>>>> >>>>>> The AGIV licence of the adressing data (CRAB) is NOT ok for reuse for >>>>>> OSM. I was in the process of requesting a licence. >>>>>> >>>>>> The story is: you can get the data but when a third person is reusing >>>>>> this they also need to sign a licence. This means that we cannot reuse >>>>>> this >>>>>> data in the OSM-database. At least not copying it, maybe mapping based on >>>>>> it and not copying would be ok... >>>>>> >>>>>> In my opinion this is not really open data, just free data as in >>>>>> beer! I did get a response that they are aware of this limitation and are >>>>>> working on this but there is no clear deadline. One day we will get this >>>>>> data, including reuse, but we are not really there yet. But maybe by then >>>>>> all addresses will be mapped already and OSM will be the reference! :-) >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm very sorry about getting everybody worked-up about finally being >>>>>> able to use this data but there was some misunderstanding about what >>>>>> usage >>>>>> in OSM meant. In our case mapping or copying the data instead of just >>>>>> geocoding on the main OSM-website. >>>>>> >>>>>> Met vriendelijke groeten, >>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Ben Abelshausen >>>>>> ben.abelshau...@gmail.com >>>>>> <mailto:ben.abelshausen@gmail.**com<ben.abelshau...@gmail.com> >>>>>> > >>>>>> http://twitter.com/xivk >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ______________________________**_________________ >>>>>> Talk-be mailing list >>>>>> Talk-be@openstreetmap.org >>>>>> http://lists.openstreetmap.**org/listinfo/talk-be<http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ______________________________**_________________ >>>>> Talk-be mailing list >>>>> Talk-be@openstreetmap.org >>>>> http://lists.openstreetmap.**org/listinfo/talk-be<http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Talk-be mailing list >>> Talk-be@openstreetmap.org >>> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk-be mailing list >> Talk-be@openstreetmap.org >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-be mailing list > Talk-be@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > >
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