Hi, We sent our opinion yesterday (thanks to Philippe).
You may read the final document here : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Belgian_OSM_contributor_Opinion_to_plan_strat%C3%A9gique_geomatique_wallonne.pdf Julien (I do not understand why my links are transformed into pictures... I use the [[File:xyz.pdf]] but this does not appears as a <a > tag... Le 23/03/14 22:41, Julien Fastré a écrit : > Hi, > > With the great help of Philippe Duchesnes, we wrote a single an common > review of the PSGW. > > Could you give us some comments before we send this ? Our deadline is > very short (this monday, end afternoon - the initial text was > submitted to our wiki). > > The RC text : > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wGZZndpoLEgJuT5fvVv6IkjaLKy6D43l5CUnTBo4z4g/edit?usp=sharing > > The PSGW itself : > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/7/7b/Projet_de_plan_strat%C3%A9gique_g%C3%A9omatique_pour_la_Wallonie_%28Belgique%29.pdf > > Thanks, > Julien > > Le 15/03/14 12:16, Julien Fastré a écrit : >> Hi, >> >> Ben, Pieter, >> >> I do not have any opposition as joining OKFN and OSM opinion in one >> document. I thought it was more strategic to have two voices, but I >> am not sure this reasoning match with reality. >> >> I propose to write differently the chapter about "open source" in a >> way which is more pragmatic. I might do this at the beginning of the >> week. >> >> OK ? >> >> Or I delete this chapter completely ? >> >> @Jo: the permission to trace from WMS is included in our request to >> open data globally. I also have contacts which focus more on web >> services. But I will mention the persmissions of Brussels and >> Flanders (the advance of wallonie and brussels is a quite good >> arguments with our politics :-) ). >> >> Julien >> >> >> Le 15/03/14 12:04, Jo a écrit : >>> Hi Julien, >>> >>> You mention we have permission to trace from Bing. In the mean time >>> we have better imagery (higher resolution, more recent) in Flanders >>> and Brussels provided by AGIV, which we are also allowed to trace. >>> We also have permission to, if I understood correctly, to use their >>> WMS (or is that CRAB) to trace/verify street names and house numbers. >>> >>> Maybe the Region Wallonne can do one better by allowing us to >>> trace/reuse building outlines :-) like in Brussels Region. >>> >>> Open data and Open source are two orthogonal subjects, one can >>> proces opendata with closed source software or closed data with open >>> source software. We have a preference for software under free >>> licenses, but everybody should be able/allowed to use whatever >>> software they please and can afford as long as they comply with the >>> licenses. >>> >>> Jo >>> >>> >>> 2014-03-15 11:53 GMT+01:00 Ben Abelshausen >>> <ben.abelshau...@gmail.com <mailto:ben.abelshau...@gmail.com>>: >>> >>> First of all Julien: thanks for all your hard work and >>> enthusiasm in taking on this task! :-) >>> >>> I think it is pretty obvious that we would want to promote usage >>> of open-source as well but I think this is something that is not >>> the task of our community. >>> >>> We can recommend using open-source tools but the argument >>> against opening data cannot ever be 'open-data is not possible >>> because then we would have to use open-source software'. I think >>> we should be very very clear that these two are different. An >>> excel document with nice juicy open-data is still a good thing. >>> >>> But we can still recommend using open-source tools, we just have >>> to be careful about how this is done in this document. >>> >>> Also: We should be careful about positioning the OSM project in >>> Belgium as a project that wants to collect/incorporate open-data >>> sets. We are about collecting data in the form of mapping the >>> world, not about collecting open-geo-data sets. That was an >>> argument for me to join everything with OKFN into one document. >>> >>> Met vriendelijke groeten, >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Ben Abelshausen >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Talk-be mailing list >>> Talk-be@openstreetmap.org <mailto:Talk-be@openstreetmap.org> >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Talk-be mailing list >>> Talk-be@openstreetmap.org >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk-be mailing list >> Talk-be@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > > > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-be mailing list > Talk-be@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
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