On 2014-09-26 13:31, Marc Gemis wrote : > Would it be a solution to use loc_ref or nat_ref > (see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:ref) for A.001.123 ? admin_ref has been suggested by Ben and is mentioned here <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_Tagging_Guidelines>. > and ref and/or int_ref for E25 ? Regarding the GPS voice instructions issue, anything that looks like a street identification will do and hence "ref" does. I can check others.
André. > m > > On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 1:16 PM, André Pirard > <a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com <mailto:a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > On 2014-09-25 12:00, Ben Laenen wrote : >> On Thursday 25 September 2014 07:05:29 Marc Gemis wrote: >>> On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 2:08 AM, André Pirard >>> <a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com> <mailto:a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com> >>> >>> wrote: >>>> I added destination:ref=E25 on a link and Osmand kept silent while >>>> going >>>> onto it. >>>> I added ref=E25 on the next link and Osmand said "turn right onto E25". >>>> >>>> So, I recommend the latter. >>> If we agree on this, it is pretty easy to write an Overpass Query to >>> locate >>> all those motorway links and add the refs systematically. >>> Just let me know if there are any objections to André's proposal, >>> otherwise >>> I'll start adding them. >> Yeah, I object. Again, it's not the ref of the link, which is usually in >> the >> form of A.001.123, which we don't map currently. > You seem to be really the only person to use that kind of id for ref. > As I wrote, among those who care to use ref on links, United > Kingdom > > <http://overpass-turbo.eu/?q=PCEtLQpUaGlzIGhhxIhiZWVuIGfEj2VyYXRlZCBieSB0aGUgb3bElHDEi3MtdHVyYm8gd2l6YXJkLsSExJ_EoXJpZ2luYWwgc2XEsmNoxK7EizoKw6LCgMKcxIZnaHdheT1tb3RvcsWQeV9sxLxrxYrCnQrEgj4KPG9zbS1zY8S5cHTEoXV0cMWwPSJqc29uIsSdaW1lb8WzIjI1IsWjICDEgMSCxJHElsSfciByZXN1bHTEiMWiCsaGxoY8cXXElMScdHlwZcW0xZnGhMaXxpjGmcSKxKdrdiBrxbTFjcWPxZHFunbFtMWUxZbFmMWRxZvFnSIvxoXGp8aHxqktxqvGrcW0xo9mxbrGj2fGtCIuKsa8xr7GpzxixKx4Lcabxp0ge3vHk294fX3Gvcamxpkvx5dyeca-xogtIHDEuW7FrsaPxpHGk8aVLceox6zEvMWuxZRkxqIixKxkecePxqY8xo9jxKrFgcSdxqDHu2Rvd8W5x6HGmce2x64gx7nHu3NrZWxlxZbFucS4x7pyxbTGm2FkdGnImMiAPC_FpsWoxarFrHQ-&c=BJwpeMUe0I&R>, > Netherlands > > <http://overpass-turbo.eu/?q=PCEtLQpUaGlzIGhhxIhiZWVuIGfEj2VyYXRlZCBieSB0aGUgb3bElHDEi3MtdHVyYm8gd2l6YXJkLsSExJ_EoXJpZ2luYWwgc2XEsmNoxK7EizoKw6LCgMKcxIZnaHdheT1tb3RvcsWQeV9sxLxrxYrCnQrEgj4KPG9zbS1zY8S5cHTEoXV0cMWwPSJqc29uIsSdaW1lb8WzIjI1IsWjICDEgMSCxJHElsSfciByZXN1bHTEiMWiCsaGxoY8cXXElMScdHlwZcW0xZnGhMaXxpjGmcSKxKdrdiBrxbTFjcWPxZHFunbFtMWUxZbFmMWRxZvFnSIvxoXGp8aHxqktxqvGrcW0xo9mxbrGj2fGtCIuKsa8xr7GpzxixKx4Lcabxp0ge3vHk294fX3Gvcamxpkvx5dyeca-xogtIHDEuW7FrsaPxpHGk8aVLceox6zEvMWuxZRkxqIixKxkecePxqY8xo9jxKrFgcSdxqDHu2Rvd8W5x6HGmce2x64gx7nHu3NrZWxlxZbFucS4x7pyxbTGm2FkdGnImMiAPC_FpsWoxarFrHQ-&c=BLstnXsViJ&R>, > Germany > > <http://overpass-turbo.eu/?q=PCEtLQpUaGlzIGhhxIhiZWVuIGfEj2VyYXRlZCBieSB0aGUgb3bElHDEi3MtdHVyYm8gd2l6YXJkLsSExJ_EoXJpZ2luYWwgc2XEsmNoxK7EizoKw6LCgMKcxIZnaHdheT1tb3RvcsWQeV9sxLxrxYrCnQrEgj4KPG9zbS1zY8S5cHTEoXV0cMWwPSJqc29uIsSdaW1lb8WzIjI1IsWjICDEgMSCxJHElsSfciByZXN1bHTEiMWiCsaGxoY8cXXElMScdHlwZcW0xZnGhMaXxpjGmcSKxKdrdiBrxbTFjcWPxZHFunbFtMWUxZbFmMWRxZvFnSIvxoXGp8aHxqktxqvGrcW0xo9mxbrGj2fGtCIuKsa8xr7GpzxixKx4Lcabxp0ge3vHk294fX3Gvcamxpkvx5dyeca-xogtIHDEuW7FrsaPxpHGk8aVLceox6zEvMWuxZRkxqIixKxkecePxqY8xo9jxKrFgcSdxqDHu2Rvd8W5x6HGmce2x64gx7nHu3NrZWxlxZbFucS4x7pyxbTGm2FkdGnImMiAPC_FpsWoxarFrHQ-&c=BMWJt14WeJ&R> > ... all use the same ref as the motorway for them. I would be > interested to see the reaction of a driver being told to go "onto > A.001.123" instead of "onto E25". > Yourself wrote that they should be tagged as admin_ref=A.001.123, > which is a number for motorway maintenance personal and certainly > not the general public. >> Routers should just become smarter and understand the tags like >> destination:ref. File a bug report over >> there. > [Please feel free to] have the "destination sub-keys" proposition > finalized and voted, suggest every router writer to support > destination sub-keys and come back to us in a few years to report > success. > In the meantime, we have a solution already working very well to-day. > When you have the proposition finalized, beware of such gotchas as: >> Supposing a road junction where 2 road signs with >> *destination:ref=Exx* tags lead in different directions to >> different entrances of the Exx motorway, e.g. northbound and >> southbound. In addition to "Exx", the GPS software must obviously >> tell to the driver the "city" written next to Exx to determine >> which of the 2 roads to take. How can it know which city is >> written next to each Exx (each road may contain >> destination=city1;city2,...;cityn of which some are not related >> to Exx)? > > It's OK Marc, you can do the same as in United Kingdom > > <http://overpass-turbo.eu/?q=PCEtLQpUaGlzIGhhxIhiZWVuIGfEj2VyYXRlZCBieSB0aGUgb3bElHDEi3MtdHVyYm8gd2l6YXJkLsSExJ_EoXJpZ2luYWwgc2XEsmNoxK7EizoKw6LCgMKcxIZnaHdheT1tb3RvcsWQeV9sxLxrxYrCnQrEgj4KPG9zbS1zY8S5cHTEoXV0cMWwPSJqc29uIsSdaW1lb8WzIjI1IsWjICDEgMSCxJHElsSfciByZXN1bHTEiMWiCsaGxoY8cXXElMScdHlwZcW0xZnGhMaXxpjGmcSKxKdrdiBrxbTFjcWPxZHFunbFtMWUxZbFmMWRxZvFnSIvxoXGp8aHxqktxqvGrcW0xo9mxbrGj2fGtCIuKsa8xr7GpzxixKx4Lcabxp0ge3vHk294fX3Gvcamxpkvx5dyeca-xogtIHDEuW7FrsaPxpHGk8aVLceox6zEvMWuxZRkxqIixKxkecePxqY8xo9jxKrFgcSdxqDHu2Rvd8W5x6HGmce2x64gx7nHu3NrZWxlxZbFucS4x7pyxbTGm2FkdGnImMiAPC_FpsWoxarFrHQ-&c=BJwpeMUe0I&R>, > Netherlands > > <http://overpass-turbo.eu/?q=PCEtLQpUaGlzIGhhxIhiZWVuIGfEj2VyYXRlZCBieSB0aGUgb3bElHDEi3MtdHVyYm8gd2l6YXJkLsSExJ_EoXJpZ2luYWwgc2XEsmNoxK7EizoKw6LCgMKcxIZnaHdheT1tb3RvcsWQeV9sxLxrxYrCnQrEgj4KPG9zbS1zY8S5cHTEoXV0cMWwPSJqc29uIsSdaW1lb8WzIjI1IsWjICDEgMSCxJHElsSfciByZXN1bHTEiMWiCsaGxoY8cXXElMScdHlwZcW0xZnGhMaXxpjGmcSKxKdrdiBrxbTFjcWPxZHFunbFtMWUxZbFmMWRxZvFnSIvxoXGp8aHxqktxqvGrcW0xo9mxbrGj2fGtCIuKsa8xr7GpzxixKx4Lcabxp0ge3vHk294fX3Gvcamxpkvx5dyeca-xogtIHDEuW7FrsaPxpHGk8aVLceox6zEvMWuxZRkxqIixKxkecePxqY8xo9jxKrFgcSdxqDHu2Rvd8W5x6HGmce2x64gx7nHu3NrZWxlxZbFucS4x7pyxbTGm2FkdGnImMiAPC_FpsWoxarFrHQ-&c=BLstnXsViJ&R>, > Germany > > <http://overpass-turbo.eu/?q=PCEtLQpUaGlzIGhhxIhiZWVuIGfEj2VyYXRlZCBieSB0aGUgb3bElHDEi3MtdHVyYm8gd2l6YXJkLsSExJ_EoXJpZ2luYWwgc2XEsmNoxK7EizoKw6LCgMKcxIZnaHdheT1tb3RvcsWQeV9sxLxrxYrCnQrEgj4KPG9zbS1zY8S5cHTEoXV0cMWwPSJqc29uIsSdaW1lb8WzIjI1IsWjICDEgMSCxJHElsSfciByZXN1bHTEiMWiCsaGxoY8cXXElMScdHlwZcW0xZnGhMaXxpjGmcSKxKdrdiBrxbTFjcWPxZHFunbFtMWUxZbFmMWRxZvFnSIvxoXGp8aHxqktxqvGrcW0xo9mxbrGj2fGtCIuKsa8xr7GpzxixKx4Lcabxp0ge3vHk294fX3Gvcamxpkvx5dyeca-xogtIHDEuW7FrsaPxpHGk8aVLceox6zEvMWuxZRkxqIixKxkecePxqY8xo9jxKrFgcSdxqDHu2Rvd8W5x6HGmce2x64gx7nHu3NrZWxlxZbFucS4x7pyxbTGm2FkdGnImMiAPC_FpsWoxarFrHQ-&c=BMWJt14WeJ&R> > etc ... > > Cheers, > > André. > >
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