The way I did there (see the changeset:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/45664904#map=14/49.7397/5.5428
) is to tag barrier=fence the ways delineating the meadow (so the polygon
is tagged as landuse=meadow + meadow =agricultural + barrier=fence).

To me in your picture, the ditch also delineates the meadow so I would put
it as a part of the polygon of the meadow (I mean, not drawing new nodes
for the ditch). In some cases where there is a large hedge (> 1m), I would
map it separately from the meadow limit.

Julien



On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 2:55 PM, Marc Gemis <marc.ge...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have some additional questions regarding landuse=meadow mapping.
> You can see it as a continuation of my longer post a few weeks ago in
> Dutch on landuse/landcover.
>
> Where does the landuse=meadow ends ?
> Typical situation: [1]
> Is the ditch part of the meadow ?
> What if there is a fence next to the ditch (away from the street) ?
>
> What about ditches/streams between two meadows, are the part of the
> landuse=meadow ?
> What if there are some bushes and or trees around the ditch/stream ?
>
> I know it is easier to map all of it with 1 landuse and include the
> ditches into the landuse. But what would be the ideal mapping ?
>
> Can a landuse=meadow include a landcover=bushes ?
>
> m
>
>
>
> [1] https://xian.smugmug.com/OSM/OSM-2016/2016-12-30-Kasterlee-
> Hoge-Mouw/i-rwdQp8z/A
>
> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 10:38 AM, Julien Minet <jumi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > OK, thanks. I think I'll follow your way: landuse=meadow +
> > meadow=agricultural (+ meadow=pasture in case of grazing).
> >
> > Julien
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 7:46 AM, Marc Gemis <marc.ge...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I would use landuse=meadow, which I believe is the standard way to map
> it.
> >>
> >> Furthermore there are the tags:
> >>
> >> <quote from https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dmeadow>
> >> If it is known, indicate the process that protects the meadow status.
> >>
> >> If the meadow is retained by environmental factors, add
> meadow=perpetual.
> >> If the meadow is retained by cutting or using grazing, add
> >> meadow=agricultural.
> >> </quote>
> >>
> >> taginfo also show a large number of meadow=pasture [1], which is
> >> mentioned on the Riding page [2]. So for grazing I add meadow=pasture.
> >> In case it is  cut by humans you could use agricultural. Or use
> >> agricultural for both. I use pasture, as that was the one I found
> >> first on the wiki.
> >>
> >> Recently there was a discussion on landuse=grass / crop=grass for the
> >> production of "grass" (not hay) on the tagging mailing list. It was
> >> not meant for hay but for patches of ground with grass that could be
> >> used to lay in gardens.
> >>
> >>
> >> regards
> >>
> >> m
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> [1] http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/meadow#values
> >> [2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Riding
> >>
> >> On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 7:03 PM, Julien Minet <jumi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> > I'm starting mapping landuse in the South of Belgium and I don't know
> >> > the
> >> > proper way to tag meadows/pastures, being grazed or hay meadows. In
> >> > Ardenne,
> >> > a large part of meadows are permanents: there are there for decades,
> >> > especially for grazed meadows that can hardly be ploughed (because
> >> > non-drained, presence of trees, etc.)
> >> >
> >> > On the other side, even old pastures can sometimes be ploughed and
> sowed
> >> > with a cereal.
> >> >
> >> > So how to tag meadows in Belgium:
> >> >
> >> > landuse=farmland + crop=grass
> >> > landuse=meadow
> >> > landuse= grass?
> >> >
> >> > From this post in the osm forum
> >> >
> >> > (https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/366/should-
> pastures-be-marked-as-farm-or-grass),
> >> > the first option seems the best, but I've seen a lot of landuse=meadow
> >> > in
> >> > Belgium
> >> >
> >> > Also, any tag for differentiate hay meadow and  grazed pasture?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Julien
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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