Thanks,

so far I never put barrier and landuse on the same object.
I have put barrier on the way and created a multi-polygon relation
with that way for the landuse. I've read about this approach from some
long time mappers.

m

On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 10:00 PM, Julien Minet <jumi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The way I did there (see the changeset:
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/45664904#map=14/49.7397/5.5428 ) is
> to tag barrier=fence the ways delineating the meadow (so the polygon is
> tagged as landuse=meadow + meadow =agricultural + barrier=fence).
>
> To me in your picture, the ditch also delineates the meadow so I would put
> it as a part of the polygon of the meadow (I mean, not drawing new nodes for
> the ditch). In some cases where there is a large hedge (> 1m), I would map
> it separately from the meadow limit.
>
> Julien
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 2:55 PM, Marc Gemis <marc.ge...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I have some additional questions regarding landuse=meadow mapping.
>> You can see it as a continuation of my longer post a few weeks ago in
>> Dutch on landuse/landcover.
>>
>> Where does the landuse=meadow ends ?
>> Typical situation: [1]
>> Is the ditch part of the meadow ?
>> What if there is a fence next to the ditch (away from the street) ?
>>
>> What about ditches/streams between two meadows, are the part of the
>> landuse=meadow ?
>> What if there are some bushes and or trees around the ditch/stream ?
>>
>> I know it is easier to map all of it with 1 landuse and include the
>> ditches into the landuse. But what would be the ideal mapping ?
>>
>> Can a landuse=meadow include a landcover=bushes ?
>>
>> m
>>
>>
>>
>> [1]
>> https://xian.smugmug.com/OSM/OSM-2016/2016-12-30-Kasterlee-Hoge-Mouw/i-rwdQp8z/A
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 10:38 AM, Julien Minet <jumi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > OK, thanks. I think I'll follow your way: landuse=meadow +
>> > meadow=agricultural (+ meadow=pasture in case of grazing).
>> >
>> > Julien
>> >
>> > On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 7:46 AM, Marc Gemis <marc.ge...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I would use landuse=meadow, which I believe is the standard way to map
>> >> it.
>> >>
>> >> Furthermore there are the tags:
>> >>
>> >> <quote from https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dmeadow>
>> >> If it is known, indicate the process that protects the meadow status.
>> >>
>> >> If the meadow is retained by environmental factors, add
>> >> meadow=perpetual.
>> >> If the meadow is retained by cutting or using grazing, add
>> >> meadow=agricultural.
>> >> </quote>
>> >>
>> >> taginfo also show a large number of meadow=pasture [1], which is
>> >> mentioned on the Riding page [2]. So for grazing I add meadow=pasture.
>> >> In case it is  cut by humans you could use agricultural. Or use
>> >> agricultural for both. I use pasture, as that was the one I found
>> >> first on the wiki.
>> >>
>> >> Recently there was a discussion on landuse=grass / crop=grass for the
>> >> production of "grass" (not hay) on the tagging mailing list. It was
>> >> not meant for hay but for patches of ground with grass that could be
>> >> used to lay in gardens.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> regards
>> >>
>> >> m
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> [1] http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/meadow#values
>> >> [2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Riding
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 7:03 PM, Julien Minet <jumi...@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > I'm starting mapping landuse in the South of Belgium and I don't know
>> >> > the
>> >> > proper way to tag meadows/pastures, being grazed or hay meadows. In
>> >> > Ardenne,
>> >> > a large part of meadows are permanents: there are there for decades,
>> >> > especially for grazed meadows that can hardly be ploughed (because
>> >> > non-drained, presence of trees, etc.)
>> >> >
>> >> > On the other side, even old pastures can sometimes be ploughed and
>> >> > sowed
>> >> > with a cereal.
>> >> >
>> >> > So how to tag meadows in Belgium:
>> >> >
>> >> > landuse=farmland + crop=grass
>> >> > landuse=meadow
>> >> > landuse= grass?
>> >> >
>> >> > From this post in the osm forum
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > (https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/366/should-pastures-be-marked-as-farm-or-grass),
>> >> > the first option seems the best, but I've seen a lot of
>> >> > landuse=meadow
>> >> > in
>> >> > Belgium
>> >> >
>> >> > Also, any tag for differentiate hay meadow and  grazed pasture?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Julien
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
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