I thought about this idea some more, and I'm not sure it's a good idea to use ALL the polygons. Municipality governments tend to have several competing "wijk" concepts, that usually are not official (ask me how I know). Their names might coincide with what citizens think of when they say Brugse Poort, but they might be defined differently. For example the Gent "wijk" boundaries are bound to be based on statistical sectors (as defined by statbel). But when those don't exactly match with your idea of a neighborhood, they still are respected for practical reasons. The "wijk" boundaries also cover the entire territory, even if there is no local concept of the area being a "wijk" in the heads of the citizens. E.g. I don't think anyone would say they are from "Stationsbuurt Noord". I would propose only adding polygons for those neighborhoods where you feel they are clearly defined (i.e. verifiable). This should be enough to stop a data user from applying a "Malem" label to an address that is clearly outside that neighborhood, without labelling all adresses with a semi-random neighborhood.
The fact that "wijken" do not exist as a Flemish or Belgian level administrative devision, means that it is hard to define how they should the admin_level structure for admin_boundaries in Belgium; even if the municipality would have officialized their existence at all. Op wo 21 aug. 2019 om 09:41 schreef Santens Seppe <seppe.sant...@stad.gent>: > Hi Pieter, > > > > It might take a bit more work to join the boundaries of the neighbourhoods > with the existing boundaries of the city and the city sections. If the open > data of the city of Ghent should diverge from what is already in OSM, it > should be decided upon which dataset has the truth, which is not always > straightforward J > > > > Cheers, > > > > Seppe > > > > *Van:* Lionel Giard [mailto:lionel.gi...@gmail.com] > *Verzonden:* dinsdag 20 augustus 2019 9:54 > *Aan:* OpenStreetMap Belgium > *Onderwerp:* Re: [OSM-talk-be] Neighbourhoods in Ghent mapped as a point > > > > Yes the node approach is only done when the boundaries are unknown (and so > this is an approximation) but in this case, as we have the boundaries as > open data, we could add them indeed. You can see it in the wiki page too > <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:place>. Thus, creating a polygon > using the exact boundaries of the open data with the tag > "place=neighbourhood" + "name=*" should be fine. You can just import a > shapefile or similar format in JOSM for example, and tag it correctly. > > > > Le lun. 19 août 2019 à 10:35, Pieter Colpaert <pie...@openknowledge.be> a > écrit : > > Hi all, > > Neighbourhoods in Ghent are mapped as a point. See for example > https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2274965455 > > The problem with this is that nominatim will add the neighbourhood to an > address string, based on the nearest point. An address still in the > Brugse Poort therefore will get an obvious wrong neighbourhood attached > to it. See for example > > https://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/search.php?q=appelstraat+27%2C+9000+Gent&polygon_geojson=1&viewbox=. > > This point is in the Brugse Poort, but it is closest to the point of the > neighbourhood Malem. > > Should we change these point to be polygons instead? > > There is also an official Open Data list of “wijken” (which is not > entirely the same though) on the open data portal of the city of Ghent: > https://datatank.stad.gent/4/grondgebied/wijken → Should we map these > bounds in OSM as well? And how? > > Kind regards, > > Pieter > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-be mailing list > Talk-be@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-be mailing list > Talk-be@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > -- Joost Schouppe OpenStreetMap <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/joost%20schouppe/> | Twitter <https://twitter.com/joostjakob> | LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/pub/joost-schouppe/48/939/603> | Meetup <http://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Belgium/members/97979802/>
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